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gigaSheik said:
zippy said:

A fad that the mighty Sony and Microsoft quickly scrambled to the market to get a slice of the motion control pie. Fad or not, it was real and massive for the time, and Nintendo could quite easily replicate a similar success in the future.



A fad that made them a ot lof money but quickly faded into obscurity and turned Nintendo into a subpar game maker. Not only it was perceived as a kiddy company. Now it is perceived as an exaggerated "simplicity" gameplay company having to deal with unexpected competition like smart phones, tablets. Cheaper hardware and cheaper/free simple games. Nintendo tries so much not to compete with Sony and Microsoft only to get lambasted by mobile devices. That's stupidity.



I don't recall Smash 4, Mario Kart 8, Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade X, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker, Fire Emblem Awakening, Super Mario 3D World/3D Land, Splatoon, A Link Between Worlds, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, Pokemon X/Y/ORAS, and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze being considered subpar..

Now, they're taking on the mobile venture so, in a way, they're about to embrace mobile. This will be part of their plans to raise awareness of their IPs.

Edit: Forgot to mention Kid Icarus Uprising... :P



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KLXVER said:
gigaSheik said:
KLXVER said:

 

I didnt say it was a success. You said that nintendo dont care about the wiimote anymore. Well....they do.

It just goes on to show how imbecile they are... Besides, its not their main selling point. The tablet (how many touch devices they wanna sell?) controller is.



 

So now they are stupid to still care about the wiimotes? Kinda being unfair to them now...

No one cares for Wiimote now. Its gonne. A concept that didn't prove to have long standing qualities. It was fun for a little while but people moved on. Gamers moved on, companies, casuals. The market isn't there anymore. Gone. They are stupid because they insist in a feature people don't care anymore.





Kai_Mao said:
gigaSheik said:
zippy said:

A fad that the mighty Sony and Microsoft quickly scrambled to the market to get a slice of the motion control pie. Fad or not, it was real and massive for the time, and Nintendo could quite easily replicate a similar success in the future.



A fad that made them a ot lof money but quickly faded into obscurity and turned Nintendo into a subpar game maker. Not only it was perceived as a kiddy company. Now it is perceived as an exaggerated "simplicity" gameplay company having to deal with unexpected competition like smart phones, tablets. Cheaper hardware and cheaper/free simple games. Nintendo tries so much not to compete with Sony and Microsoft only to get lambasted by mobile devices. That's stupidity.



I don't recall Smash 4, Mario Kart 8, Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade X, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker, Fire Emblem Awakening, Super Mario 3D World/3D Land, Splatoon, A Link Between Worlds, Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, Pokemon X/Y/ORAS, and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze being considered subpar..

Now, they're taking on the mobile venture so, in a way, they're about to embrace mobile. This will be part of their plans to raise awareness of their IPs.

Most of the games you mentioned don't require a wiimote. Some of them play better with a classic controller.



They shouldn't, especially not now. Their home consoles were just placeholders for their fitting IPs since the N64, and for plebeians who don't game on handhelds. Today they have the ability to make their main games not exclusive to portables, but also on home consoles with the fusion concept. It's the return of the NES and SNES.



KLXVER said:
gigaSheik said:
KLXVER said:

 

I didnt say it was a success. You said that nintendo dont care about the wiimote anymore. Well....they do.

It just goes on to show how imbecile they are... Besides, its not their main selling point. The tablet (how many touch devices they wanna sell?) controller is.



 

So now they are stupid to still care about the wiimotes? Kinda being unfair to them now...

Of course they are stupid. Defenetely. Their market is eroding. Nintendo is fading. Losing relevance. When people talk about games they hardly talk about Nintendo. They keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Thats stupidity. There's no other way to spin it.





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gigaSheik said:

 

No one cares for Wiimote now. Its gonne. A concept that didn't prove to have long standing qualities. It was fun for a little while but people moved on. Gamers moved on, companies, casuals. The market isn't there anymore. Gone. They are stupid because they insist in a feature people don't care anymore.



 

Some people still care for it. They are usually the ones that are satisfied with the Wii and dont feel the need to upgrade to the WiiU though. I dont think the Wii was a fad. It did what it needed to do. I dont think anyone thought the wiimote would be the future of video games.



Armour1 said:
zorg1000 said:

 

Wii was huge with children and families of which many of those franchises cater to that demographic, are u suggesting games like Kirby, Animal Crossing, Mario Party, etc appeal more to the PS/XB audience than they do to the Wii audience?

 

Why is it some of you are so closed minded that you think only one type of game sales on a consoles, that may be true on nintenod hardware.

But anything slales on PS.  Freakiong indes are doiong well.

Im suggesting they can sale on a user base that exists better then one that does not.  

How many kid/family friendly titles have sold extremely well on PS4/XB1? Minecraft is basically it. This is a site that tracks game sales, look at the PS4/XB1 software charts, they comprise of basically online-focused shooters, open-world action games, sports and racing sims. The primary audience of people buying PS4/XB1 are not the same people that the majority of Nintendo games are aimed at.





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gigaSheik said:

Of course they are stupid. Defenetely. Their market is eroding. Nintendo is fading. Losing relevance. When people talk about games they hardly talk about Nintendo. They keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Thats stupidity. There's no other way to spin it.



 

Seems to me like the only mistake they made is the WiiU... Just like Sony made the mistake called Vita.



KLXVER said:
gigaSheik said:

Of course they are stupid. Defenetely. Their market is eroding. Nintendo is fading. Losing relevance. When people talk about games they hardly talk about Nintendo. They keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Thats stupidity. There's no other way to spin it.



 

Seems to me like the only mistake they made is the WiiU... Just like Sony made the mistake called Vita.

Really? The N64 was a mistake. Cartridges and hard to code. Gamecube was a mistake. Powerful but looked like a teletubbie lunch box. Who wants a purple videogame that looks like Barbie's oven? Wii was a great idea that took the company into a dangerous situation. The 3DS was far too expensive because of a 3D feature many consumers don't even use and have little practicity in actual gameplay. Let's not even mention WiiU and Nintendo online philosophy. Every Nintendo system since the SNes have a problem that undermines the potencial. Its like for every good idea they have 2 bad ideas.





gigaSheik said:

 


 

Did Nintendo franchises popularity skyrocket on Wii? 3D Mario, 2D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Paper Mario, Punch-Out, Excite, Sin & Punishment, Battalion Wars, Mario Sports, etc all had very modest boosts over NES/SNES/N64/GC sales despite having 40-80 million extra sales. The only title that saw truly massive growth over previous installments was Mario Kart.

Wii was a fad, its buyers werent gamers.  

PS xbox byuers are.

 

Wii was huge with children and families of which many of those franchises cater to that demographic, are u suggesting games like Kirby, Animal Crossing, Mario Party, etc appeal more to the PS/XB audience than they do to the Wii audience?

Wii was a fad because no one uses that controller anymore. Not even Nintendo. It was fun for a little while but it didn't prove to have an appeal and practicity that would last for generations and generations like the analog stick, or shoulder buttons. Nintendo is falling victim of itself. Their need to "make something different" is forcing them to make very, very, very bad decisions.

 

My point went completely over ur head. Actually read what I said, kids/families were a huge percentage of the Wii audience, most of Nintendo franchises are aimed at kids/families. Most Nintendo franchises saw little growth over their previous installments on consoles with much smaller install bases. Most Nintendo games saw little growth on a console whose demographic matched those type of games, so why would said franchises show massive growth on consoles like PS4/XB1 who don't show much interest in the type of games Nintendo makes?



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.