Sure, but thats not the topic.

Oh absolutely, my initial response is earlier in the thread, so this was merely talking about mistakes they've made (even then, we can say it was a mistake, but we don't really know how it would've worked out either, so....), not that I think they should or should not do anything.  

Very few millions going of wiiu sales.  

and if your hoping they hit another fad with nx you are betting on some low odds.

Thats the thing though. Only Nintendo can have problems. As soon as you mention anyone else, its off topic...

weird, they're fading so much that they first time they decided to release a major toy brand it has sold as well as the other top selling figure-toy brands

they're fading because their handheld this generation has sold like 60 million during a time period in which NO other company has managed to stay alive in the handheld market, even Sony

they're fading because they constantly get asked to put their IP into movies and TV?

you're delusional. Nintendo clearly has had less success this generation than last, but they still are extremely relevant. they only reason Nintendo isn't 'talked' about in terms of the console wars is because the Wii U has an oddball controller tablet and disconnected with buyers due to confusion over its relation to the Wii

Nintendo releases a standard high spec system with a more traditional controller and some degree of compatibility integration with their next handheld and it will sell insanely well

the reality is that Nintendo has all of the IP's and character any game company could dream for. They have the fans and they have money. there is no reason for them not excel in the generations to come

also to those who repeatedly stupidly say Nintendo should become third party- you do not understand Nintendo's business model at all or are not aware of what kind of cut third party software developers get. There's production costs, lack of full control on game development (dependent on the hardware player), sharing software sale revenue with the hardware creator, etc. etc. etc.

Nintendo's worst current move would be something like that. and it would be totally illogical. Nintendo doesn't NEED to leave making consoles. they've made far more money than their competitions over the last few decades because they are more concerned with profit than market share

I'd imagine - and this thread supports me here - that it's some combination of wishful thinking and willful ignorance.

Wasn't that adding also GBA's hardware and softare sales?

You can create a topic for the other manufacturers mistakes and I'll gladly join.

Well, I think it's more down to the diversification that the other companies have, that Nintendo doesn't.  Sony, who was obviously in very big trouble for quite some time, has other far more profitable sectors, that helped them survive a very rough period (Without their Banking/Insurance div, I highly doubt they could've made it to the restructure, let alone make it past the restructure).  Microsoft...shouldn't need to explain that one.  On the other side, look at Sega.  They didn't have that kind of diversification and now they're 3rd party.  But, I don't think they're in the same league as Nintendo either.

For me though, I'm not highlighting their issues out of smugness, I'm highlighting it out of concern.  I think Nintendo is an irreplaceable asset to the Gaming community (I think they attract new gamer's as kids, who then grow up and expand their preferences), and I want them to survive (To bring new people into the fold, as well as keeping legendary IP coming), whatever it takes (not that I think they're at a breaking point or anything).  As I said in my original post, I think they could make a ton of cash going 3rd party, but I'd only really vote for them to do it if it was a matter of Nintendo making games, or Nintendo not making games.

Dont need to. Thats part of the conversation here. Why put Nintendo games on consoles that have other issues? Because so far the WiiU is the best console this gen imo.