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Forums - Movies & TV - The Force Awakens sucks! *MAJOR SPOILERS*

Saw it last night and loved it. Sorry that you didn't feel the same!
I'm excited to learn more about the characters in the upcoming films.



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amp316 said:

Why should I care?

I am asking the same question, but not just regarding the new movie but the whole franchise, but then again I didn't live in the 70s.



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m0ney said:
amp316 said:

Why should I care?

I am asking the same question, but not just regarding the new movie but the whole franchise, but then again I didn't live in the 70s.

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**** Here there be spoilers ***

Let's just take a look at a New Hope.

What do we know of Luke's backstory? Ohh right. Nothing.
How about how he used the force to guide an otherwise impossible shot with little training?
How about Darth Vader's non existant character depth? He practically acts like a robot in the first movie. All we know is that he's super religious, has super powers, is better than everyone else and very obedient. That's it.
Leia's home planet gets blown up? Why do we give a shit about that again? It's not like Leia is a critical character at that point in the movie.

I think you're looking at the originals with Rose-colored glasses. The only real difference between the Force Awakens and a New Hope is that they know they're making a sequel after the Force Awakens and planned the movies out in accordance with that.

But you're right it did bug me how Rey became so strong so quickly, and it was pretty friggin annoying that she could wreck Ren in a fight like that after he had been groomed for years in the ways of the dark side, but we really don't know much about the force at all. Perhaps there is precedence for what happened. Perhaps this is a result of there being so few Jedi. Remember, Leia and Rey had a intense connection as soon as they met. There could be something greater at play here, and we might have just scratched the surface.

But man... can we move past the whole "death star" thing? They could have made a giant halo-like space station around the sun and accomplished the same thing while being far, far more original.

All in all this movie was very much a "passing of the torch" from one generation to the next in more ways than one. I think it accomplished exactly what it set out to do and sets the franchise up for plenty of success in the future.



I expected no better honestly. Take off your nostalgia glasses. The only decent space opera to ever appear in video format is LOGH.



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Gourmet said:
I expected no better honestly. Take off your nostalgia glasses. The only decent space opera to ever appear in video format is LOGH.

It has nothing to do with nostalgia.  Many consider Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back to be the two best Sci-fi movies of all time.  This movie couldn't compare with either of those two in any way except for special effects.  Even the lightsaber duel was was badly choreographed and clunky.  It looked like two kids playing with toy lightsabers.



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I like that there are many questions o explore. It's very not clear what the hell happened in the meantime. And who the hell is the new supreme leader? Question...ah well.

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Overall I decided I liked it and will see it again I hope.



Eh. You're definitely over reacting. That's fine I guess, but to say it was a bad movie is just stupid. It wasn't magical, it wasn't perfect, but it was a solid ass movie.



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potato_hamster said:

**** Here there be spoilers ***

Let's just take a look at a New Hope.

What do we know of Luke's backstory? Ohh right. Nothing.
How about how he used the force to guide an otherwise impossible shot with little training?
How about Darth Vader's non existant character depth? He practically acts like a robot in the first movie. All we know is that he's super religious, has super powers, is better than everyone else and very obedient. That's it.
Leia's home planet gets blown up? Why do we give a shit about that again? It's not like Leia is a critical character at that point in the movie.

I think you're looking at the originals with Rose-colored glasses. The only real difference between the Force Awakens and a New Hope is that they know they're making a sequel after the Force Awakens and planned the movies out in accordance with that.

But you're right it did bug me how Rey became so strong so quickly, and it was pretty friggin annoying that she could wreck Ren in a fight like that after he had been groomed for years in the ways of the dark side, but we really don't know much about the force at all. Perhaps there is precedence for what happened. Perhaps this is a result of there being so few Jedi. Remember, Leia and Rey had a intense connection as soon as they met. There could be something greater at play here, and we might have just scratched the surface.

But man... can we move past the whole "death star" thing? They could have made a giant halo-like space station around the sun and accomplished the same thing while being far, far more original.

All in all this movie was very much a "passing of the torch" from one generation to the next in more ways than one. I think it accomplished exactly what it set out to do and sets the franchise up for plenty of success in the future.

 

I basically agree with everything you said. Only one nit pick, Kylo Ren was wounded when he fought Rey. He took a shot to the abdomen from Chewie's bow caster