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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Halo 5 will sell 7.3 Million this year (Prediction)

 

Will it?

Yes 126 10.05%
 
No 438 34.93%
 
Maybe 93 7.42%
 
You're crazy 317 25.28%
 
I don't know 24 1.91%
 
Halo is dead 225 17.94%
 
team chief 24 1.91%
 
team locke 7 0.56%
 
Total:1,254
Chris Hu on 29 December 2015

I think you need to check the numbers for Mario Kart again it also sold a ton on both the DS and 3DS.  Plus all the games in the franchise have a much higher attachment ration then any GT game.



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curl-6 on 29 December 2015

I may have missed something, but what does Mario Kart have to do with this?

Come to think of it, what does Gran Turismo or Drive Club have to do with Halo 5 sales?



Chris Hu on 29 December 2015

That PR was money well spend since Brazil is still a expending market when it comes to video games compared to other markets where sales are flat.



SWORDF1SH on 29 December 2015
Swordmasterman said:

 

i Think that Gran Turismo 6, was not a Flop in the series because the game sold only to the Previous gen Systems, when the Next generation already were out there, if Forza Horizon 2, were a Xbox 360 Exclusive, he would sell a lot less than it Sold.

2013 Was really a good year for Playstation 3.

Gran Turismo 6, Launched only for Playstation 3, in December 2013.

Timing of launch wasn't the greatest but you then start to make excuses for it. It GT Sport or GT7 goes back to selling 10M+ then you can justify that opinion. I think Sony will be a little concerned about it at least.





Farsala on 29 December 2015
AsGryffynn said:
Farsala said:
AsGryffynn said:

Are Halo 5 and Gears Ultimate among those? I also better point out that Amazon is not where we purchase our digital games. We prefer our own digital service, especially with Games and Deals with Gold lowering prices...

Oh, found the link...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-06-12-ps4-xbox-one-seeing-much-higher-digital-download-attach-rates

PS has higher Digital rates then XB. So the higher digital ratio should go to Sony's franchises.

PS4 alone 43%> 37% Xbox 360+ Xbox One

 

https://www.superdataresearch.com/blog/top-10-digital-console-games/

Date: January 2014

SWORDF1SH said:
AsGryffynn said:

Are Halo 5 and Gea

Sounded like you were saying that XB1 games had a better digital attach rate than the rest. So sorry if you didn't imply

BTW that link has nothing to do about digital/physical split per game, it just says that the digital attach rate has risen overal. This is probably due to the quality and quantity of digital only games being added weekly has improved over time on console.

I don't doubt that the digital/physical split per game improves in favor of digital over the years and I don't doubt that Halo could have up to 30% in digital sales. What I do hate that all of a sudden digital must be used to justify the Halo sales and it's never been so important. It's treated like it's the only game to have a digital version and the only game ever that could be pre-loaded before launch. All we've heard for months it "I have 10 friends that bought Halo and they all bought digital" and "You can preload it so many people bought it digital so they could play 12:01am". It's this kind of special treatment that Halo is getting that has made people fed up of hearing about digital Halo sales.

Trying to track per game sales is even more of a hassle. That said, Halo 5 was a huge title, so preloading the game was something a lot of people tried to do, as they wanted to play it before launch for story reasons and to have an edge in multiplayer (guilty here). I know it starts to annoy others, but when the bundle they sold relied on a digital download code, it sort of sent the message home (screw the disc, buy digital). The problem is that we don't have digital numbers. All we know is that it outsold the best selling digital game that preceded it.

 

January 2015, but you are right digital rates are probably better for PS4 now and worse for the rest.





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SWORDF1SH on 29 December 2015

Lol @ MK being thrown around. I think we need to regroup and get this thread back on track it's starting to spiral out of control.



Teeqoz on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Teeqoz said:
curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

And GT6 with 5M is a flop, Driveclub with 2M is a flop and Forza 6 with 1M is a success?

GT6's sales were revealed to be 2.37m this September, not 5m.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2015/09/03/gran-turismo-6-sales-revealed-to-be-just-2-37-million/

And that source was revealed as bogus (it used VGC numbers). And it was as of june 2014. And it was still VGC numbers. Meanwhile Polyphony recently disclosed GT shipment numbers again (they do it once in a while).

GT 6 shipments = 4.71m

Source: http://www.polyphony.co.jp/products/

Scroll down and you will find shipment numbers for all GT games as of 30th september 2015.

And I realize this is still shipments, but I figure it should be quite obvious that a game that had sold 2.37 million had shipments twice as high as that.

Interesting. When people call GT6 a "flop" though, I think that's in the context that it underperformed by series standards. It's not that the game was a failure, it wasn't, just that people typically expect better from a Gran Turismo title.

On the other side of the fence, Forza 6 sold 607k in its first 10 weeks, where Forza 5 sold about a million, so there's certainly cause for concern there.

Both franchises have shown decline with their recent entries.

 

I think GT7 (not GT Sport) has a chance to sell at least 10 million. GT6 was pretty clearly disadvantaged by launching on the PS3 after the PS4 launched (I mean, you can't deny that), and GT5 is the second bestselling game in the series, despite being on the PS3. So I think there's a lot of potential for GT7 on the bigger PS4 userbase.



DonFerrari on 29 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Teeqoz said:
curl-6 said:

GT6's sales were revealed to be 2.37m this September, not 5m.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2015/09/03/gran-turismo-6-sales-revealed-to-be-just-2-37-million/

And that source was revealed as bogus (it used VGC numbers). And it was as of june 2014. And it was still VGC numbers. Meanwhile Polyphony recently disclosed GT shipment numbers again (they do it once in a while).

GT 6 shipments = 4.71m

Source: http://www.polyphony.co.jp/products/

Scroll down and you will find shipment numbers for all GT games as of 30th september 2015.

And I realize this is still shipments, but I figure it should be quite obvious that a game that had sold 2.37 million had shipments twice as high as that.

Interesting. When people call GT6 a "flop" though, I think that's in the context that it underperformed by series standards. It's not that the game was a failure, it wasn't, just that people typically expect better from a Gran Turismo title.

On the other side of the fence, Forza 6 sold 607k in its first 10 weeks, where Forza 5 sold about a million, so there's certainly cause for concern there.

Both franchises have shown decline with their recent entries.

People were calling a flop using VGC and your "evidence" as proof. On the news that it sold 5M people were complaining a little less, and if we used the digital claim we could be putting the same spin used for Halo.

SWORDF1SH said:
DonFerrari said:
SWORDF1SH said:

But me and my dog bought GT6 digital so it really sold 15M :p

But to be fair GT6 sales can be considered a flop relatively to the franchise.

Underwhelming yes, flop no. And with 90% digital it sould 50M

I'd call it a flop for a Gran Turismo game. It's kinda the same boat Halo 5 is in. Good sales but poor sales for the franchise.

Sold half of the other main entries, poor I know, and we know the reasons, but I wouldn't say a flop. But only underperformed.

Chris Hu said:

I think you need to check the numbers for Mario Kart again it also sold a ton on both the DS and 3DS.  Plus all the games in the franchise have a much higher attachment ration then any GT game.

See what I said, MK before Wii... and again with attach rates? If a game sells about the same amount for 4 generations but the install base greatly fluctuates you would say it was more succesfull in one than the other? No, the game install base was consistent.

MK on Wii were highly inflated with new customers (that weren't hold on WiiU), while SNES, N64 and GC were somewhat stable.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

curl-6 on 29 December 2015
Teeqoz said:
curl-6 said:

Interesting. When people call GT6 a "flop" though, I think that's in the context that it underperformed by series standards. It's not that the game was a failure, it wasn't, just that people typically expect better from a Gran Turismo title.

On the other side of the fence, Forza 6 sold 607k in its first 10 weeks, where Forza 5 sold about a million, so there's certainly cause for concern there.

Both franchises have shown decline with their recent entries.

I think GT7 (not GT Sport) has a chance to sell at least 10 million. GT6 was pretty clearly disadvantaged by launching on the PS3 after the PS4 launched (I mean, you can't deny that), and GT5 is the second bestselling game in the series, despite being on the PS3. So I think there's a lot of potential for GT7 on the bigger PS4 userbase.

I don't deny that, being on PS3 after the launch of PS4 definitely put it at a disadvantage, but all the same, a decline of over 50% from the previous entry is pretty steep.

Still though, we've wandered pretty far off track for a thread about Halo 5's sales.



Swordmasterman on 29 December 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
Swordmasterman said:

 

i Think that Gran Turismo 6, was not a Flop in the series because the game sold only to the Previous gen Systems, when the Next generation already were out there, if Forza Horizon 2, were a Xbox 360 Exclusive, he would sell a lot less than it Sold.

2013 Was really a good year for Playstation 3.

Gran Turismo 6, Launched only for Playstation 3, in December 2013.

Timing of launch wasn't the greatest but you then start to make excuses for it. It GT Sport or GT7 goes back to selling 10M+ then you can justify that opinion. I think Sony will be a little concerned about it at least.

Granturismo 6's launch were very good, it released in 5 December, and in 7 December it already had sold over 900k at Retail, the problem of selling a game in the end cicle of the Console is that it hurts the Leg sales, that GT Showed to have long legs, without any release  of the game in 2014 they said the  franchise had over 70-71 Millions sold, and now have over 76.5 Millions units sold.

like The Last of Us, the  Remaster sold more than 3 Millions isn't it ?, this helped to give legs for the game and for the people Play The Last of Us, Already with a new generation System, that is Playstation 4, i think that the Next GT, if is not a Prologue, will have 8 or + Millions of Life time Sales, already is a good thing if you compare for How Poor Racing games are selling nowdays, with Need for Speed, and Forza 6.