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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
I'm gonna have to side with the company on this one. Considering your friend's answer, it would not be unreasonable for xyz to assume that their prospective employee is a flaming homosexual, as he shows no interest in increasing the number of female coworkers.

Given how xyz would risk compromising the working environment for current, presumably heterosexual, employees as well as the company's image, I find that their decision to cut ties with your friend is sound.

It doesn't matter which company it is, they can't just assume an employee or future employee is a homosexual who doesn't want female employees on the workforce and deny him of employment, because it's not only unethical, it is also illegal. The company is supposed to do what's best for business by looking for the employees that fits the profile regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, etc.



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Hedra42 said:
What was the circumstances of the interview in which the question was asked? Was it something that all internship/placement people expect to go through, or was this interview out of the ordinary? I wonder if there is something more to this.

Oh yeah these are common, just to see how you're getting on. At this point, you're hired and they've given you a job because they like you as a candidate, good companies will do this with students because for them it's still about learning the world of work.



Tachikoma said:
I was asked the same recently, as a woman I said "if you're hiring for gender instead of skill I'm working for the wrong company it seems.

Pissed off my evaluator immensely, they forwarded my case to executive level, who re-interviewed me and asked if I'd like to rephrase my answer.
I said yes and handed him my notice.

Incentives and polarization to force a gender balance in jobs women clearly are rarely interested in, is a slap to the face of any man or woman who worked their ass off to get the same position that is now being seemingly handed out with ease so long as you at least identify as a woman and can fulfill a quota.

Fuck em.


Good answer this. 

Its not different to asking ''what do you think about hiring more blacks or pakistani's''. 

It should make no difference, as long as they get the job done. The second you stark hiring based on your anatomy / colour you are setting ''equality'' back. 



There are two sides to every story. I wonder how your friend knows he was "fired" for his answer to this question.



Ka-pi96 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
I'm gonna have to side with the company on this one. Considering your friend's answer, it would not be unreasonable for xyz to assume that their prospective employee is a flaming homosexual, as he shows no interest in increasing the number of female coworkers.

Given how xyz would risk compromising the working environment for current, presumably heterosexual, employees as well as the company's image, I find that their decision to cut ties with your friend is sound.

FYI firing people because you think they're homosexual is very much illegal and not at all ok...


I think he was joking though...



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I suspect there is something your friend isn't telling you. I find it hard to believe he got fired for that.



Teeqoz said:
Ka-pi96 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
I'm gonna have to side with the company on this one. Considering your friend's answer, it would not be unreasonable for xyz to assume that their prospective employee is a flaming homosexual, as he shows no interest in increasing the number of female coworkers.

Given how xyz would risk compromising the working environment for current, presumably heterosexual, employees as well as the company's image, I find that their decision to cut ties with your friend is sound.

FYI firing people because you think they're homosexual is very much illegal and not at all ok...


I think he was joking though...

I thought it was clearly a joke....maybe we are wrong and he was serious....



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
I'm gonna have to side with the company on this one. Considering your friend's answer, it would not be unreasonable for xyz to assume that their prospective employee is a flaming homosexual, as he shows no interest in increasing the number of female coworkers.

Given how xyz would risk compromising the working environment for current, presumably heterosexual, employees as well as the company's image, I find that their decision to cut ties with your friend is sound.

Best post, haha. I see you managed to hook a few.



fireburn95 said:
Hedra42 said:
What was the circumstances of the interview in which the question was asked? Was it something that all internship/placement people expect to go through, or was this interview out of the ordinary? I wonder if there is something more to this.

Oh yeah these are common, just to see how you're getting on. At this point, you're hired and they've given you a job because they like you as a candidate, good companies will do this with students because for them it's still about learning the world of work.

OK, I went back to your OP, and tried to put myself in the shoes of the interviewer.

How important do you think it is that we get more women in the tech workplace?

He didn't answer the question. He didn't mention women, or how important he felt it was to increase the presence of women in the tech workplace, which is what the interviewer wanted. Regardless of what the question was, from an interviewer's point of view, the sort of answer your friend gave comes across as evasive, and could have sent signals that your friend isn't prepared to be straight with people when it counts.

It does sound very unfair, based on what you've said. But your friend should be entitled to some feedback to take away with him - he is within his right to know why he is being let go, even if he is on probation. If the reason is legal, then he'll learn from it. If not, then he should take action.



Hard to believe that's a reason to fire someone. At the same time, your friend didn't actually answer the question.
And why would they ask this kind of thing? Is this a normal procedure?