@Euphoria

We're talking about US numbers being low this week, so if I can't get one in the US, then yeah that kind of does matter.

  I see that, but the point is that if stockpiling was indeed true, why such low numbers for Brawl week? I am just seeing that the US may be hard to find one, but outside the US, it seems to be a completely different story.

We heard stockpiling excuses, diverting shipments, blah blah blah, yet honestly... where are the sales to prove all this BS from the last week?

Not to be an ass or anything, I am just curious and have yet to see a definitive answer besides more BS on the lines of "They are stockpiling for GTA IV"...

 As in failure I only mean that it sold alot less than what was expected for Brawl week. In no way do I think the Wii is failing. It is still on top.

 If the 1.8 milion number isn't true some big wigs in Nintendo would be in jaul right now for falsefying financial information.

So.... i'm gonna say your wrong. 

Here's the thing though.

If you count this weeks Wii sales as proof that the stock piling excuse does not exists(which I don't say it does or doesn't) then if this week, Wii sales in Others are 150,000 units, or some such number, then won't it prove that demand for the Wii hasn't been met in europe?

I don't think either number proves anything, honestly. Numbers from a single week, can be highly misleading to the overall trends of the market, it's the chaos effect.

Would you take the numbers from a week when the PS3 beat the Wii in America and say, "The Wii was a fad." It might not seem the same to you on the surface, but if you think about it a little, its very much the same principal, I think you'd agree.

A man has to think his opinion is his own. He can't have it handed to him and told its the correct one. Everyone should come around to such obvious conclusions, but by the nature of man, many will hold out, and choose the opinion they feel best serves their interest, fact or fiction. There are faults in your argument, that you can't deny, and calling others out, over the vast proclimation of the general stockpiling concensus, isn't going to win you any friends, respect, fame, glory, or personal satisfaction over the long run. I feel it might be best in the end, to simply say nothing at all until the unfolding of this month has become clear, and then make your oberservations concerning all that has taken place. 

So ioi is not updating OTHERS tonight, well thats quite interesting.

Ah, very good. I understand. In reality, the failure was of the Nintendo fanboys, and not of the console itself. With this, I agree. If you'll look at the prediction post, you'll see my hardware numbers for the week totaling 150,000, and my being told they are "criminally low" when in fact, I think they were spot on with what the market for Wii shipments were showing us.

That said, once again, stockpiling can be small or larger, and can sometimes only consist of an extra 10,000 units every week for 4 weeks. This is contrary to the myth spread on these forums of comic book like bursts and influx of supply. I'll save my comment for April first, however. 

 Agreed.

I would never say the Wii is a fad or anything of the sort because to me, honestly it does not matter, I own all 3 so if something great comes out I have the opportunity to enjoy all aspects of this generation.

Although I have realized some people take my words wrong, maybe it would be smarter to take a little look over all what I wrote before posting to decrease the amount of confusion within them. :)

I guess it isn't easy trying to get some stuff in while grinding in Blue Dragon to gain a few important shadow skills.

This is actually false, because I know you've left out a vital assumption, haven't you?

You haven't realized it yet?

Let me explain:

The Wii would sell out of hardware units this week, no matter how much they flooded the market with consoles, and no matter if Brawl was released this week, or if Brawl didn't exist at all.

The only reason this week could be considered a failure, is because it gives Nintendo haters ammunition to flame the console, even though it performed quite admirably.

If Brawl was to have no effect on hardware sales, which much be an assumption, unless you assume that the Wii can't sell 100,000 units in one day as we've seen last week, or unless you assume that the Wii is within 400,000 units of saturation in North America, which is a rediculious assumption, then the only failure to be found is in the fact that unavailability of the Wii might have caused less purchases of Brawl because potential customers couldn't find systems in which to play the game on. This is the general point of the stockpiling argument, which is, more units available equal more Brawl sales.

Frankly, your argument was flawed from its inception, was it not, unless you disagree with my logic, in which case I would be more than happy to debate it with you. If you believe something I've said is "damage control" then by all means, lets set the facts straight and delve right to the heart of the matter. 

in other news, the 360 price cut did nothing in europe