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Will Forza 6 make it to Windows PC?

YES! 62 27.56%
 
No. 99 44.00%
 
Possibly? 18 8.00%
 
Not for awhile.. 19 8.44%
 
No one cares. 27 12.00%
 
Total:225

Forza 3 was the pinnacle up to this point (still to play FM6 however).... all other "competitors" in that genre of racing have been getting obliterated by Forza ever since.



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I have it (ultimate edition, so I can play it right now) and fuck yes, it's the best racing game I have ever played.



Goatseye said:
Normchacho said:


By that definition Forza is definitely not a simulator, because it isn't the intention of the developer to make the games super realistic.

 

Turn 10 isn't making an attempt at real life.

That's why they made Forza Horizon to attempt at real life right?

I mean, they went to all the trouble with Ford to replicate the looks and the behaviour of the new Ford GT, to make it as Arcadish as possible right?

Forza Motorsport is classified under Racing Sim, is that a mistake or you know more than the game industry?


Haha okay.

So, because there is a less realistic game with the Forza name that automatically makes Motorsport a sim?

I'd also love for you to point out where anyone said anything about them making it as arcadish as possible.

Oh, I didn't realize King Video Games declared Forza a racing sim. Someone better tell Turn 10 that they've been wrong about their own series this whole time.

Edit: Let me just add, I've already played the Forza 6 demo and it's awesome. Easily the best game in the series as pure gameplay is concerned and probably the best racing game I've played in a long time.



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Azzanation said:
Conegamer said:

Well, you are on a sales site so talk of sales is naturally going to be a hot topic (even if the focus on these sales is somewhat lower than a few years ago). 

And that's my point, quality is subjective. Other people may prefer a game like The Crew due to the large open world, or Gran Turismo for its respective quirks. Which is why I feel the only metric which really matters is what you think of a game and not others opinions. Sure that's easier said than done but if you enjoy something does it really matter what others think?

When you have many reviewers prasing a game then its a clear indication of quailty then Sales because Sales can happen based off many reasons and most times its not the quality of the product/game were as straight up reviews give a much better indication of a qulaity product, and thats why i base my claims off Metacritic and not just 1 review site either.

iPhones arent the best products on the shelf however its the top selling mobile in the world. VW Beetles arent the greatest cars in the world however sold the most cars in the auto industry. Sales dont determine quality. Never did.


You really dont get COnegamers point, do you? For many iPhones are the best mobile phones in the world. They believe that top-notch benchmarks and performances, simplistic look and app optimizations outwigh the hefty pricetag. So yeah, yopu are simply taking your own subjective look at products and project them as facts.

I personally couldent care less about F or GT (lets be honest they are the 2 biggest rivals at the moment), as I am not a fan of semi-simulators (as one of my friends like to put it) and Im more an arcade-racer type myself. Never the less, GT is still hugely popular, and it has to be for a reason...



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It's on Xbone, so it will probably never match GT in sales or graphics, but in terms of gameplay, the only game for me that comes close in recent history is Dirt Rally. Speaking about the gameplay in F5 and the improvements seen in the F6 demo.



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Normchacho said:
Goatseye said:

T10 is more like an overseeing entity. They work on the next FM on the years off.

Forza Motorsport is a Sim first. This infatuation with weather on racing sim, comes first from people that are not a big fan of the genre.

It's just like rain in soccer, it was cool when it was first implemented but it gets tiring after couple of matches.

Forza is not a racing SIM. Project Cars is at the moment the only racing SIM on console. That will change next year with the arrival of Assetto Corsa though.

console games just have had to be too accessible to be true sims. This is at least partly due to their need to be easily playable with a controller.

This has been common knowledge to sim racers for a very long time.

Project CARS isn't much of a sim either not compared to Assetto Corsa and other PC titles anyway.



Chris Hu said:
Normchacho said:
Goatseye said:

 

Forza is not a racing SIM. Project Cars is at the moment the only racing SIM on console. That will change next year with the arrival of Assetto Corsa though.

console games just have had to be too accessible to be true sims. This is at least partly due to their need to be easily playable with a controller.

This has been common knowledge to sim racers for a very long time.

Project CARS isn't much of a sim either not compared to Assetto Corsa and other PC titles anyway.

That's true, but it's head and shoulders above anything else on console.



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Normchacho said:
Chris Hu said:
Normchacho said:
Goatseye said:

 

Forza is not a racing SIM. Project Cars is at the moment the only racing SIM on console. That will change next year with the arrival of Assetto Corsa though.

console games just have had to be too accessible to be true sims. This is at least partly due to their need to be easily playable with a controller.

This has been common knowledge to sim racers for a very long time.

Project CARS isn't much of a sim either not compared to Assetto Corsa and other PC titles anyway.

That's true, but it's head and shoulders above anything else on console.

You say FM isnt a Sim but..

http://www.mweb.co.za/games/view/tabid/4210/Article/21253/Forza-6-e-racers-will-be-test-drivers-for-Fords-Le-Mans-comeback.aspx

FM6 is helping racers use the new Ford GT?

If that doesnt say Simulation then i dont know what else to say. Why would they use an Arcade racer for training?

 

Also its been noted by many reviewers

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/gaming/review/a667270/forza-motorsport-6-review-one-of-the-best-racing-simulations-out-there.html

 

Heres a quote from Gamers Association

*Gran Turismo has since become a series lauded for its long, (sometimes) questionable development cycles, but beloved for its attention to detail and realism upon release. (This is apparent in its 70+ million total units sold). Unfortunately, in the 15 years it has been trying to perfect the driving sim formula, another series has swooped in and presented quite the challenge with a shorter dev cycle and more robust ideas overall.*

 

Its ok to have an opinion but if your not linking any form of proof then i dont see your point. Its nothing more then You said, he said debate. Forza Motorsport is a Simulator Racer and i have given you examples above. It competes with the best in the industry in that genre and has sometimes even out preformed them.



FM is still behind GT in terms of physics. There really is no match for Polyphony when it comes to sims.

And Turn 10 didn't develop Forza Horizon 2, it was developed by Playground Games.



Azzanation said:
Normchacho said:

That's true, but it's head and shoulders above anything else on console.

You say FM isnt a Sim but..

http://www.mweb.co.za/games/view/tabid/4210/Article/21253/Forza-6-e-racers-will-be-test-drivers-for-Fords-Le-Mans-comeback.aspx

FM6 is helping racers use the new Ford GT?

If that doesnt say Simulation then i dont know what else to say. Why would they use an Arcade racer for training?

 

Also its been noted by many reviewers

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/gaming/review/a667270/forza-motorsport-6-review-one-of-the-best-racing-simulations-out-there.html

 

Heres a quote from Gamers Association

*Gran Turismo has since become a series lauded for its long, (sometimes) questionable development cycles, but beloved for its attention to detail and realism upon release. (This is apparent in its 70+ million total units sold). Unfortunately, in the 15 years it has been trying to perfect the driving sim formula, another series has swooped in and presented quite the challenge with a shorter dev cycle and more robust ideas overall.*

 

Its ok to have an opinion but if your not linking any form of proof then i dont see your point. Its nothing more then You said, he said debate. Forza Motorsport is a Simulator Racer and i have given you examples above. It competes with the best in the industry in that genre and has sometimes even out preformed them.


It's a simcade. It's close and could be used to learn tracks or even quirks of a car but not everything applies when transferred to real life or life to the game. 

GT6 still feels better than forza 6 at the moment as far a physics go but I'm waiting on my xobx one wheel to get here. It should be here in a few hours and i'll get back to you on that once i do. 

Also, Did they review say if they used a wheel?