As much as I love the WW, I'd prefer a more realistic Zelda on the Wii. Well, actually, I'd prefer a cross-over Zelda. One that is somewhat cartoony, but not cell shaded.
68soul said:
I'm nearly 40, and i agree 100% with Soriku's OP, so... it has nothing to do with age, it's just a matter of taste... But it's maybe true younger gamers have no shame tellin' they like cartoony graphics, while the 20-25 want to prove they're "real" men with "better", "grown-up" tastes... That kind of behavior disappears the day you have kids, and you find yourself watching Disney or Pixar classics with them, or playin WW or Galaxy with them... the wonder in their eyes and the fun they have are just so great to see... But for people like me, who have always been animation fans and Zelda fans too, WW cel shaded world >>> any FPS "realistic" world... In fact, some of the WW dungeons are still my favorite of all the Zelda's i've played... and i've played them all at least once, sometimes two or three times... I'll always remember the first impressions i've had in the Forbidden Woods, by example... it's so beautiful and impressive... but it's my taste, and my taste only, i don't force anyone to agree... in fact, i don't really care... It's just a shame Nintendo will never do another WW, on Wii by example, because of the (very relative) "commercial failure" WW has known... I'm sure Aonuma would love to do it, so what if there's "only" 2 or 3 millions people interested, and not 5 or 6 millions? I'd LOVE to play it, that's for sure... |
Or maybe people in their early 30s who have lived their entire life studying art and live in the design world still think Wind Waker is derivative and weak.
...
It is quite possible that the art design behind the game is just plain bad.
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When WW first came out i was really pissed that we didn't get a realistic Zelda, Then when TP came out all i could think is this game is really going to age badly, all the fans including myself who complained and probally influenced Nintendo's decision to use more realistic graphics were wroung. WW Already looks better than TP and as time goes on the difference will just become more noticable.
But i disagree its not the best graphics ever, your forgetting all the awsome Super Nintendo games like, Mario world and Super Punch out.
| Griffin said: I wonder if the age of the gamer has anything to do with the fact that they like WW, the first bunch of people in this thread are very young from what i can remember, and may not have been of gaming age back in the old Zelda days. Because everyone i know hated Zelda WW, these would be people from the age of 20-25. |
Sorry dude, I'm 26 and I agree with Soriku that WindWaker is the most beautiful game ever created. It's not the best Zelda ever, because the sailing could get quite boring and the triforce quest was just plain stupid, but graphically I take it over any other game. (And yes. I played Uncharted).
68soul said:
I'm nearly 40, and i agree 100% with Soriku's OP, so... it has nothing to do with age, it's just a matter of taste... But it's maybe true younger gamers have no shame tellin' they like cartoony graphics, while the 20-25 want to prove they're "real" men with "better", "grown-up" tastes... That kind of behavior disappears the day you have kids, and you find yourself watching Disney or Pixar classics with them, or playin WW or Galaxy with them... the wonder in their eyes and the fun they have are just so great to see... But for people like me, who have always been animation fans and Zelda fans too, WW cel shaded world >>> any FPS "realistic" world... |
The part about the age was not a jab or anything like that, i just want to make that clear with everyone. Being 20-25 and not not liking WW is not trying to be cool or anything, or saying are tastes are grown up. Its just that the people of specific age group grew up playing different games, then say a 13-18 yearold. And how this may effect the games they like more then others, the people i knew loved the older Zelda's since the day they came out, and WW was a big let down for all of them.
I also have no problem watching kids shows, as i have young step sisters. But they like GTA and violent games.
I wouldn't say best graphics ever, but it's definitely up there.
Smooth textures, Constant framerate, Ultimate Artistic style. From a pure technical standpoint (NOTE: Not a how realistic standpoint) this game was awesome.
I love WW! Its music is great too!
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68soul said:
I'm nearly 40, and i agree 100% with Soriku's OP, so... it has nothing to do with age, it's just a matter of taste... But it's maybe true younger gamers have no shame tellin' they like cartoony graphics, while the 20-25 want to prove they're "real" men with "better", "grown-up" tastes... That kind of behavior disappears the day you have kids, and you find yourself watching Disney or Pixar classics with them, or playin WW or Galaxy with them... the wonder in their eyes and the fun they have are just so great to see... But for people like me, who have always been animation fans and Zelda fans too, WW cel shaded world >>> any FPS "realistic" world... In fact, some of the WW dungeons are still my favorite of all the Zelda's i've played... and i've played them all at least once, sometimes two or three times... I'll always remember the first impressions i've had in the Forbidden Woods, by example... it's so beautiful and impressive... but it's my taste, and my taste only, i don't force anyone to agree... in fact, i don't really care... It's just a shame Nintendo will never do another WW, on Wii by example, because of the (very relative) "commercial failure" WW has known... I'm sure Aonuma would love to do it, so what if there's "only" 2 or 3 millions people interested, and not 5 or 6 millions? I'd LOVE to play it, that's for sure.. |
On the contrary, I think a cell-shaded Zelda would have much more family appeal than a realistic-style Zelda. Phantom Hourglass isn't even seen as a 'big' Zelda by most of the fans, yet it is less than a million away from Twilight Princess, probably THE most hyped Zelda together with Ocarina of Time.
About the WW graphics: I think they are some of the prettiest ever. Those who think they aren't, or even say it isn't even the prettiest CS game: play it on a SD tv, at the right distance from the screen. Be amazed by the battle against Gohmma, let your mouth fall open from happiness in the Forbidden Woods, notice the big smile on your face when you play the Tower of The Gods, and make it grow even bigger for what comes after that.
The game is graphically truly amazing. Period.
rocketpig said: Or maybe people in their early 30s who have lived their entire life studying art and live in the design world still think Wind Waker is derivative and weak. ... It is quite possible that the art design behind the game is just plain bad. |
What, you think you're the only person in this world who grew up in an artistic environment? My father is a comic book author, and since my very early days, i've known a ton of animated movies, comic books, paintings, etc, etc...
While some "designers" are imho the perfect examples of bad taste and elitist bullshit: live in this world is not a proof of a so-called universal good taste or perfect judgement, it means absolutely nothing, sorry...
As i've said, it's just a matter of taste, you have yours, i have mine... but stating the WW art (or any art form in fact) is just plain "bad" is pointless and meaningless, it's just your very subjective opinion, nothing less, nothing more...
"A beautiful drawing in 480i will stay beautiful forever...
and an ugly drawing in 1080p will stay ugly forever..."
bbsin said:
Huh? i don't remember seeing that in Rise of the Ninja....wait, Is that Naruto: Rise of the Ninja? or is it a sequel? |
Thats because rise of the ninja looks not nearly as good as this game. Its not a 360 game that should give it all away.
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