As a Wii U owner from launch day, I'm glad

This is more of a gamer message board insulated line of thinking more than it is reality. The reality is of the four major console manufacturers, 3 of them (Nintendo, Sega, and Microsoft) have had their best selling game system's ever after previous product cycles of less than 5 years. The DS (released 3 1/2 years after GBA), Genesis (released 3 years after Sega Master System), and XBox 360 (released 4 years after the first XBox) all did monstrous business. 

Releasing a better product isn't abandoning your marketbase, it's giving them something better to play. Yes there will be some who bitch and moan at inception, but don't kid yourself, there were people bemoaning the DS and XBox 360 too. Bet they all ended up buying a DS or XBox 360 eventually anyway. Game fans tend to make a lot of noise but most of these people will come around when they see Mario Galaxy 3 or Monster Hunter 5 or Dragon Quest XI running on NX. 

The Wii U and 3DS are still going to sell 85-90 million or so units this generation even at current estimates, 3DS should finish around 70 million and Wii U probably somewhere around 15-17 million. 

Even if NX only sells 70-75 million (home and portable versions combined), that's easily no.2 in the marketplace, and probably no.1 in Japan. DQXI + likely Monster Hunter + Yokai Watch + Pokemon and the rest of Nintendo's IP is not going to be a push over at all over there. 

And really the GameCube was also abandoned after basically 4 years and Nintendo too, calling November 2005-November 2006 a real year of product support is fairly dubious. Didn't obviously impact Wii at all. Also they've already said they will continue to support the Wii U and 3DS after NX launch. 

I dont get it, so what if that was MS first console? How long Nintendo and Sony first consoles were on market before successor!? So what if it is launch 2 years after DC arived on market, again Xbox was 4 years on market. And like I wrote, Nintendo consoles usualy have life span around 5 years, so 1 year less isn't big deal. Also this: @Soundwave post:  The reality is of the four major console manufacturers, 3 of them (Nintendo, Sega, and Microsoft) have had their best selling game system's ever after previous product cycles of less than 5 years. The DS (released 3 1/2 years after GBA), Genesis (released 3 years after Sega Master System), and XBox 360 (released 4 years after the first XBox) all did monstrous business.

We can't know is PS4 in holiday 2016. will have $299 because PS4 still is selling very well with this $399 price. Nintendo will aim affordable price with NX probably around $249 not $299, same like they done with Wii.

We still dont know what exactly gimmick or new concept is, so that dont apliey they will target only casuals, if they really release some sort of hybrid device definitely will not targeting only casuals.

Nintendo made too many mistakes with Wii U, they failed almost in every way with Wii U (except great games), and you think that they will release successor with same mistakes that will have sales same like Wii U!? Wii U is their worst selling console ever, they will certainly sit down and think how to prepare successor that will be much more successful and they will certainly correct most of the mistakes they made with Wii U. Also their best selling console come after they worst selling console in that time.

Exactly this, if NX is a fusion type platform then the timing is right to go for such a thing with the portable market lacking competition and the Wii U's slow performance.

The more important part is that the Xbox launched late in the gen, not first.  No one was going to find them  at fault for that. You want to see what happens when someone is first to launch, then quickly abandons the current gen, look no further than the DC.  Sega was in a very similar situation, too. Poor performing predecessor, underpowered HW (compared to the rest), and poor 3rd party support.

And if the rumblings are correct, we already know Nintendo is making the same mistakes.  Underperforming console in order to have a lower launch price? Check. Gimmick to draw in casuals? If it's a hybrid, check.  And if it's underpowered compared with even current gen, poor 3rd party support? Check.  Especially when the PS5 comes out 2 years later.

You see, Nintendo, and its fans, foolishly think that because Nintendo was able to strike gold with this approach with the Wii almost 10 years ago, and in a time when there was very little competition for the casual market from phones/tablets, they can do the same in a time with that ccompetition.  The Wii U already prooved they can't, but damned if they aren't going to try it again.

4 years is 4 years, doesn't matter if console arrived on beginning or on the end of gen. 

You comparing Sega Dreamcast with Wii U!? Sega discontinued the Dreamcast only 2 years after realising! Wii U is in third year and this year we are getting some very good Nintendo games, also next year too, and Nintendo will probably announce few new games. How is that similar with Dreamcast when Wii U will be on market at least 4 years before new hardver arive, and you can bet that Wii U will not be discontinued at least for 2-3 years.

One of the main reasons why Wii U performing so bad are: bad timing, bad revealing, bad name, terrible marketing, not so affordable price, bad launch titles, software drought in 1st year, poor utilization of gamepad...not underperforming hardware (Wii is evidence for that), almost all things Wii had in comparing with Wii U. Nintendo is very aware of mistakes that they maked with Wii U and they already announced that they working to not repeat them on NX. Do you realise just if Wii U has different name and good marketing Wii U would easily perform at least on GC level.

You see, Nintendo haters foolishly think that because Nintendo done terrible job with Wii U they will done again with next hardware too, even Wii U is their worst selling console ever and they will certanly do whatever it needs to have next hardware much more successful.

Also, nobody think NX will be Wii kind of success, but almost anyone will tell you that they expecting much successful product than Wii U.

Things for now that will NX will probably have in comparison with Wii U:

-Better name, good marketing, affordable price, better new concept of playing (gimmick) if that hybrid thing is real, simple architecture of hardware, good launch titles, no software drouth...but yes, NX will perform same like Wii U!? Ok then. :)

"And if the rumblings are correct, we already know Nintendo is making the same mistakes.  Underperforming console in order to have a lower launch price? Check. Gimmick to draw in casuals? If it's a hybrid, check.  And if it's underpowered compared with even current gen, poor 3rd party support? Check. Especially when the PS5 comes out 2 years later."

Nonsensical trolling above? Check.

Ur just making up a random, nonsensical goalpost to support ur claim, there is absolutely nothing that indicates it's OK to launch a console early when u were last to launch the previous gen but it's not OK if u were first to launch the previous gen.

Ur acting like Wii & Wii U share the same philosophy but the 2 devices are day and night differences. Wii was meant to bring in new and former gamers in demographics that the other console makers were not targeting, they did this by offering simple controls (the novelty of motion controls played a large part but the simplicity in being able to fully understand the controls in moments unlike traditional dual analog controllers really made it accessible to everyone) along with fun, simple games that could be enjoyed in short bursts or in group settings with friends or family members. Wii also emphasized on low development costs where developers didn't have to rely on games selling in the millions to be profitable and could experiment with new concepts, it also had a steady stream of 1st/2nd party titles in the first 18-24 months.

People think just because it has Wii in its name, is weaker than the competitors and introduced a new controller that means it shared the same philosophy and strategy as Wii. Wii was about expanding the gaming audience while Wii U was about retaining their audience while at the same time making a device that could receive easy PS3/360 ports in hopes of winning them over but they failed on both fronts. The Gamepad is nothing like the Wii Remote, it went right back to the dual analog/8 button layout that was deemed too complex/intimidating for people who weren't longtime gamers. It focused on 3rd parties being able to port games over instead of making new, inventive games. It was and still is $100 more than Wii, lacked the viral marketing of Wii, and Nintendo has not been able to release a consistent release schedule like Wii had. With Wii, Nintendo released a bunch of new IP and new concepts, Wii U is mostly just sequels of those IP/concepts.

So claiming Wii U proves anything is a completely false statement. U say Nintendo fans are foolish for believing they can find success again because of a 10 year old console well ur just as if not more foolish for believing success is impossible based on Wii's successor selling poorly when it doesn't share any of the same qualities that made Wii a success.

How on earth is that trolling. I'm just making the point that Nintendo have an image nowadays that is more towards children or families with children but they need to make a product more stylish and appealing to adults as well perhaps in the 16-30 age group who typically may be more playstation and xbox consumers. It just means they have to style it appropriately and market it correctly really.  The wii was a huge success creating an almost apple image to the console while not powerful inside it was stylish and compact on the outside. However the market is much different now and the NX needs to be more aggressively styled I think because it needs to focus more on core/hardcore gamers rather than casual.

"NX" may be coming in 2016, however, the next Nintendo home console won't arrive until 2017 or later.