3DS had much better name and marketing (there are some people that think Wii U is addon for Wii), also 3DS had very fast price cut and few good titles available at once. Wii U come only one year after 3DS so they couldn't really change software drouth or weak launch titles issues.

My point is that with Wii U they go wrong anything that could go wrong, only postive that they done are great Wii U games.

Nintendo is making a mistake if they go with a gimmick and do not upgrade their specs to current generations. it's one thing to release the Wii U and have it not be at current levels- but to release yet ANOTHER generation under the previous generation? come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn

the idea of connected the home console and handheld is a fascinating one and probably a good move, but having poor graphics is unexcusable especially when recent price points of Nintendo systems have been high for arbituary decisions like thet tablet controller

hopefully this person is just referring to the NX handheld, not the potential home console

they will certainly suceed to some degree if they handheld / console markets are combined- all they need to do is make some Mario, Pokemon, Fire Emblem games and pull in their handheld market and a lot of them will get the home and portable consoles just for  common sense of being able to play their games anywhere

I do agree though that it is a bit naive from Nintendo to think long term they can skate by without bringing top of the line graphics. what makes it more awkward is that console graphics (PS4 / Xbox One) are sooo far behind even average priced gaming computers and Nintendo has been considerably behind the other consoles which means that Nintendo's systems have been trailing by a monumentous amount in terms of specs

obviously graphics aren't everything but you don't expect to be like a decade lagging in the department. invest the money! don't be cheap, that's my advice to Nintendo. spend the money while you have it

Rally?

What console before Wii U had bad name and bad marketing that people were very confused and assuming that is only addon for previous console? What Nintendo home console had high price?

What Nintendo console exactly had all this problems: "bad launch, bad name, bad marketing, high price, weak launch titles, software drouths"!?

I would say that's false

Nintendo hasn't had real third party support since the SNES days

all they need is a smart system. either do a gimmick that's relevant today or just do a traditional controller and hardware with decent specs. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid, etc. are more than enough to pull in consumers but in the case with the Wii U the consumers were consumed or just did not buy into the tablet controller

implying that Nintendo needs 3rd party support to sell a system is pretty much killed as an argument by the 3DS- people buy that system for the Nintendo IPs, those are the titles that (by a massive margin) sell the best

if Nintendo truly is going to integrate their handheld and home console together, to play the same games possibly at varying graphical levels, then they will have no problem pulling in consumers

adding a Battlefield or Batman to a system that a Pokemon player wants is not really going to change much of anything. that is a false perspective to view from, because Nintendo has succeeded the most when they were different than their competition, not when they were the same. the answer isn't third party it's a stronger first party with a smart system design

Do you realize that every Nintendo console have sold less than the console before? Except the Wii of course.

the Wii U is where it is now because of marketing and design

when you label something the next in line aka 'Wii 2' then people naturally expect a similar system (which the Wii U is not remotely like the Wii). not only that but in terms of marketing Nintendo did not push the system at all upon release- they thought that it would sell itself. unfortuantely the title of the system was terrible, and simply adding a 'U' after the word Wii did not resonate with buyers or really inform them that it was something new

     lastly the gamepad was an abysmal decision, players don't want to constantly look at their lap  to play a game and they just don't CARE for the added feature when they can press start/select and easily reach a map or menu anyway

the Wii U partially may have failed due to a bad game lineup but as much of  that is Nintendo's fault as third parties- the 1st party game lineup has been sparse and weirdly timed. they released the system with virtually NO big titles. had they came out with the Wii U and a Zelda game + Mario Kart - BAM it would have sold great

just total failure on marketing and design. the third parties aren't responsible for the Wii U failing, Nintendo is

Yes, so!?

We want count Wii sales numbers because they wasn't worse than GC!? Wii is legit console and you can't say except Wii.

And that doesnt have nothing with that Wii U is Nintendo console with most and biggest mistakes. Nintendo screwed up nearly anything they could screwed with Wii U, and thats my point.

Has there been any positive news on NX yet?

Not from the big guys...but from the mobile studios? Definitely