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katakpisang on 29 June 2015
Ruler said:
katakpisang said:


lol this kind of argument really smh , we talked about japanese market and then you moving the goal post ? sony are done in japan 8th generation hardware are on 5.5m ltd and nintendo at 21m 

Where they are done if they are selling more games than nintendo currentley?

sources?



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Acevil on 29 June 2015
Ruler said:
Acevil said:

I understand, from a consumer point of you, why you would want things to happen (and in a large part they will, just slower), but from Japan centric point of view, the PS4 is doing barely better than its home console competitor (wii u), and is doing really horrible when compared gaming centric comptitor (3DS), and in the end that still doesn't change the fact mobiles are becoming even bigger than those markets. 

It is really funny that the Wii U is even competition to something like PS4 in any market. 

Mobile gaming is only a trend it could collapse like atari did in the 70s. Eventually people get sick about microtransactions, many bad games and the controls.

I don't think so, Atari and Mobiles are two different situations, but I rather not argue that (I need to run soon, or I might have considered it). My main argument is that right now Mobiles > Nintendo > Sony in terms of software and hardware in Japan currently, and it doesn't seem to change that dramatically in the near future. Maybe next year, Sony will be ahead of Nintendo for that whole year, but at the same time that could easily turn around the following year. 

(Anyways need to run, have fun)



 

katakpisang on 29 June 2015

Media Create Top 10 Publishers 2014

1. Nintendo
Total Software: 7.864.301

01. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) {2014.09.13} (¥5.616) - 2.001.935
02. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 # (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 851.776
03. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} (¥4.800) - 677.319
04. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U # (Nintendo) {2014.12.06} (¥7.776) - 471.236
05. [3DS] Mario Party: Island Tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} (¥4.800) - 467.090
06. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 270.449 / 3.868.448
07. [3DS] Yoshi's New Island (Nintendo) {2014.07.24} (¥4.936) - 236.766
08. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} (¥5.985) - 214.668 / 606.755
09. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 210.482 / 2.437.387
10. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds # (Nintendo) {2013.12.26} (¥4.800) - 200.590 / 424.733

6. Pokemon Co.
Total Software: 2.832.797

01. [3DS] Pokemon Alpha Sapphire <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937) - 1.225.092
02. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥4.937) - 1.058.252
03. [3DS] Pokemon X # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 240.005 / 2.207.483
04. [3DS] Pokemon Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 204.558 / 1.963.675
05. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby/Pokemon Alpha Sapphire: Dual Pack <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2014.11.21} (¥9.874) - 98.101
06. [3DS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Dungeon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.11.23} (¥4.800) - 4.482 / 473.181
07. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800) - 1.639 / 342.990
08. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World <ADV> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.11.12} (¥5.800) - 665 / 295.982
09. [WII] Pokemon Battle Revolution <ETC> (Pokemon Co.) {2006.12.14} (¥5.800) - 3 / 454.905

8. Sony Computer Entertainment
Total Software: 1.683.025

01. [PS4] Knack # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.02.22} (¥5.145) - 404.707
02. [PSV] Freedom Wars (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.06.26} (¥6.264) - 289.288
03. [PSV] Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.07.17} (¥6.264) - 134.472
04. [PS4] Destiny # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.09.11} (¥8.532) - 124.251
05. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice Δ (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.03.06} (¥4.980) - 109.156
06. [PS3] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.09.11} (¥8.532) - 103.146
07. [PS3] Gran Turismo 6 # (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.12.05} (¥6.980) - 73.488 / 349.175
08. [PS4] The Last of Us Remastered (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.08.21} (¥6.372) - 59.638
09. [PS4] Infamous: Second Son (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.05.22} (¥7.452) - 56.044
10. [PS4] Killzone: Shadow Fall (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2014.02.22} (¥7.245) - 55.751

 

pokemon alone bigger than entire sony franchise in japan



Kuksenkov on 29 June 2015

Nintendo won't let them have it so easy. At this point, VITA is murdered anywhere but Japan, and PS4 isn't setting the country on fire.

3DS has been consistent, and it is yet to get some more Japanese games that ate monsters (pun non intended) sales-wise.

They need to make both upcoming home console Final Fantasies they're main priority. Xbox ain't a treat, and Dragon Quest/Tales are already with them, which is good.... Although it seems ATLUS has jumped from one wagon to another, and they're mostly with Nintendo now.

Only a main entry Pokemon game, an expanded brand new experience on home consoles could "revitalize" the market.



Skullwaker on 29 June 2015
Ruler said:
The wiiu and 3DS get not many games for the rest of the year, playstation gets every month a new japanese game. It will continie that way until the NX launches. That list also shows top not overall system software sales

 

It shows the top 100 best selling games. Aka, essentially the only games of the year that sold well enough to give a damn about (considering number 100 sold 81k, anything beneath it isn't anything to be concerned about).

But you know what, I will humor you and add up every single sale of those games and compare Nintendo and Sony. This is obviously what you want, right?

Nintendo (3DS & Wii U): 51 Games / Units Sold: 23,049,103

Sony (PSV & PS4): 49 Games / Units Sold: 7,954,327

The thing is, the games that the PSV and PS4 typically get don't sell over 1m, or even 500k. Like, just last week the PS4 got DMC4, but that game will be lucky to reach even 100k LT. And the Vita recently got The Legend of Heroes, but that probably won't even reach 50k. Meanwhile, the Wii U hasn't gotten a new game since Splatoon but that's nearing 400k and the 3DS just got Rhythm Heaven, which is close to 300k by now and it's getting Fire Emblem this week, which will open around 350k.

The stipulation that you just created that Nintendo gamers just don't buy games and Sony gamers do is horrendously wrong, I almost feel bad that I had to spell all of this out.

Edit: And if you think Sony will sell more games than Nintendo this year (in Japan) with games like Monster Hunter X, Yo-Kai Watch Busters, Yo-Kai Watch 3, Fire Emblem Fates, The Great Ace Attorney, Animal Crossing: HHD, Dragon Quest VIII, Super Robot Wars, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Mario Maker and Illusory Revelations on the horizon with Splatoon, Rhythm Heaven, Dragon Quest X, Xenoblade X, Mario Party 10, Girls Mode 3, Puzzle & Dragons, Bravely Second, etc. recently released, then you're sadly mistaken.



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Mystro-Sama on 29 June 2015

Sony has Square and Capcom. They're most likely going to be successful this gen.



Aerys on 29 June 2015
Skullwaker said:
Aerys said:
Well, it's easy since they have the only relevant home consoles in Japan

That literally makes zero sense.

 

The reality doesnt make sense ?



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 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

uran10 on 29 June 2015
Aerys said:
Skullwaker said:
Aerys said:
Well, it's easy since they have the only relevant home consoles in Japan

That literally makes zero sense.

 

The reality doesnt make sense ?


Your reality isn't reality. Wii U is outselling ps4 for the past month. If the ps4 was the only relevant one then why is it being beaten there? hmmmmmmm?



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Skullwaker on 29 June 2015
Aerys said:
The reality doesnt make sense ?

How is that the reality? Please explain it to me. I'd love to hear some facts.



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Stellar_Fungk on 29 June 2015
Mystro-Sama said:
Sony has Square and Capcom. They're most likely going to be successful this gen.

Be successful with what? Reclaiming Japan or beating Nintendo? (which is not Sony's main rival in Japan anymore).

And one more thing. Last gen Sony had Square and Capcom too (Xbox doesn't count, cause Xbox don't sell in Japan). Yet they didn't "reclaim Japan" with them. The only way for Sony to reclaim that country is to make a new handheld/Sony gaming smartphone or release something on PS4 that does the job that Pokémon, Youkai Watch, Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest couldn't do for the 3DS. 



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