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Vodacixi on 27 June 2015
Jon-Erich said:
Vodacixi said:

Of course. That's why 2016 has no games confirmed at all besides SMT X FE and Zelda, which is not even confirmed to be released that year.

Yes they were.

Nope.



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BlkPaladin on 27 June 2015

 

Vodacixi said:
Jon-Erich said:
Vodacixi said:

Of course. That's why 2016 has no games confirmed at all besides SMT X FE and Zelda, which is not even confirmed to be released that year.

Yes they were.

Nope.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/18/e3-2015-why-nintendo-didnt-show-zelda-wii-u

Reggie and Miyamoto both said during E3 it's a 2016 game. And the release chart they had at E3 lists SMT X FE as a 2016 game. As it stands no both will be out next year.



Jon-Erich on 27 June 2015
Vodacixi said:
Jon-Erich said:
Vodacixi said:

Of course. That's why 2016 has no games confirmed at all besides SMT X FE and Zelda, which is not even confirmed to be released that year.

Yes they were.

Nope.

Yes they were. In fact, SMT X FE is actually coming out in Japan before the end of the year. It was confirmed to be coming to the US and Europe in 2016. As for Zelda, TWO major people from NIntendo both publicly stated that it's coming in 2016.



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Mummelmann on 27 June 2015
vkaraujo said:

A poor E3 conference: gamers infers Nintendo is doomed and is about to drop Wii U
Iwata comes out and openly says he want to satisfy the owners wii u: gamers ignore and keep their baseless assumptions with must be true because metroid was not announced

Talk about overreacting


Alternative C: Nintendo have been saying the same thing every year, "this is the year of the Wii U" since launch and simply never delivered and the fans are fed up and actually want them to move on.

Besides; they also denied that the DS was getting a replacement only shortly before the 3DS was announced, and no one at Nintendo has outright denied that new hardware is imminent. Just like they've kept on saying that "Zelda is still on the Wii U" without actually shooting down rumors and beliefs that it will also be on the new hardware.

People are reading between the lines, something which has become increasingly easy with Nintendo this year since it is all but obvious what's going on. There's a lot of spin and pedalling going on and very little actual substance to both release schedule and announcments. We're running out of arguments for an extended Wii U life cycle really, really fast.
The writing is on the wall but one has to actually look at it to read it.

I have learned something important in life, which applies to everything from work to relationships; hear what people say but focus on what they do.



Dunban67 on 27 June 2015
97alexk said:
JEMC said:
There are so many things that can be said, and so few of them are positive.

I only see positive things, i hope iwata is a man of his word, if he is , we will be satisfied


all you have to do is look at a variety of statements he has made at Investor meetings and otherwise to see he is most def NOT a man of his word- 

Although Iwata is more sophisticated than Reggie-  they ahve about the same "truthfulness" track record

They dropped the Wii 2+ years before release for the Wii U (w no warning word etc and the Wii had 100 mil userbase-   so i can t imagine they will support a userbase of under 10 mill on a console they are losing money on better than they dod the Wii (and they were also making money on the Wii hardware- something they are not doing so faron the Wii u (unless there is an update from Nitendo saying otherwise that i have not seen yet)



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Dunban67 on 27 June 2015
fluky-nintendy said:
Well, it's their business to care with the 10m people that got a wiiu. The damn thing isn't even 3 years old, you can't really stop producing games for it.


I agree w you BUT I don  t even think we can hardly count the 1st 12 months of the Wii U - They barely had any support for it the 1st year

IMO they will go thru the motions of supporting the wii u  but it will be the absolute bare min effort -  we will get more stuff like Amiiboi festival, and Mario Tennis IMO



97alexk on 27 June 2015
Dunban67 said:
97alexk said:
JEMC said:
There are so many things that can be said, and so few of them are positive.

I only see positive things, i hope iwata is a man of his word, if he is , we will be satisfied


all you have to do is look at a variety of statements he has made at Investor meetings and otherwise to see he is most def NOT a man of his word- 

Although Iwata is more sophisticated than Reggie-  they ahve about the same "truthfulness" track record

They dropped the Wii 2+ years before release for the Wii U (w no warning word etc and the Wii had 100 mil userbase-   so i can t imagine they will support a userbase of under 10 mill on a console they are losing money on better than they dod the Wii (and they were also making money on the Wii hardware- something they are not doing so faron the Wii u (unless there is an update from Nitendo saying otherwise that i have not seen yet)

The Wii was released 2006 and ended 2012 before the release of the Wii U, 6 year life cycle is what everyone in the 7th gen had



ARamdomGamer on 27 June 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Declan said:
This doesn't ring true - significant software support for the Wii was all but cut off two years before the WiiU's release (what was shown for the Wii at E3s 2011 and 2012 other than Skyward Sword?), and that had an install-base far more conducive to releasing profitable games. Nintendo's statements often suggest one thing while their actions suggest another.

 

We got Xenoblade(Nintendo), Last Story and Pandora's Tower (published by XSEED).

A Mario Party game and of course the grand return of a traditional Kirby game on home consoles.



Dunban67 on 27 June 2015
97alexk said:
JEMC said:
97alexk said:
JEMC said:
97alexk said:
JEMC said:

I was talking about the "We are prioritizing satisfying customers who purchased the Wii U" line. A new Mario Tennis and an Amiibo Animal Crossing game is not what I would call prioritizing our satisfaction.

Also, after the disaster that was the launch of the 3DS, Iwata said that they had learned the lesson: not launching their an overpriced console without games. Judging by what happened with WiiU, he was either lying, he thought that lesson applyed only to handhelds, not home console or he simply doesn't know what he's doing.

Make yourself a favor and don't put much hope on Iwata.

I dont put much hope in iwata, im just hoping as a nintendo fan, yes the digital even this year was awful, but they only showcased on single Wii U game thats coming out next year, and we know about 3, that means there will be alot more Wii U games announced for 2016 in the upcoming months and year

You should take a look at how many Nintendo developed games had Wii in its last year. Asuming that there will be a lot more games just because they have talked about 3 is putting too much faith in them. Besides, you don't even know what kind of games they have in store. For all we know, they could be great games from great franchises, but they could also be awful games that nobody asked for.

awful games that no one wants? i seriously dont think nintendo would do that after the negative feedback from metroid prime federation force. Is there a single nintendo developed Wii U game that that has come out, that is not good? i cant think of any, and even the third party devs like platinum with bayonetta 2 was amazing, a amazing Wii U line-up will only be strengthened. Also just from zelda U and SMT X fire emblem for the Wii U, that alone already looks really good

The Metroid Federadion Force is a good example because with Nintendo refusing to reveal games years before its launch (a rule that they don't have problems to forget when they want, as Xenoblade X, SMTvsFE or Zelda proves), we don't know if or how many games like that Federation Force are in the works right now.

As for bad WiiU games, well, right off rom my head there's "U Sing" or something like that. But the biggest problem is not if the games are good or bad, the problem is if we want those games or not. We didn't want that Metroid 3DS game (a sidescrolled game like SuperMetroid or even a remake of it would have been received with joy), no one asked for an Amiibo Animal Crossing game, some asked for a Mario Strikers game but were given a Tenis game, StarFox is a demanded game but certainly not with those graphics, etc.

It's not the quality of those games, it's the number of games and who will buy them. Besides Xenoblade, there's not a single E3 game shown or revealed from Nintendo that I'll buy. And that is sad.

If Super mario maker, fatal frame, star fox zero, SMT x fire emblem, yoshi woolly world, fire emblem fates, triforce heroes dont interest you, then maybe you shouldnt speak as if you were a nintendo fan. Because that includes all the favourite nintendo franchises. Also i think nintendo learned from this E3, reggie even said he knew they werent gonna like it at first, but he trusted next level games to make a still really cool spin-off game. As a metroid fan im still dissapointed, doesnt mean it will be bad. When nintendo delivers, they really do it. And they have delivered all the time until this E3, one E3 isnt gonna change my whole opinion how nintendo makes games. I still beleive there upcoming line-up is strong, and because its zelda and metroid 30th anniversary next year, i believe nintendo has soemthing planned. we will jsut have to wait and see

Unless you love 2D  platformers, Nintendo has not delivered for the Wii u during most of its lifespan to date



Dunban67 on 27 June 2015
97alexk said:
Dunban67 said:
97alexk said:
JEMC said:
There are so many things that can be said, and so few of them are positive.

I only see positive things, i hope iwata is a man of his word, if he is , we will be satisfied


all you have to do is look at a variety of statements he has made at Investor meetings and otherwise to see he is most def NOT a man of his word- 

Although Iwata is more sophisticated than Reggie-  they ahve about the same "truthfulness" track record

They dropped the Wii 2+ years before release for the Wii U (w no warning word etc and the Wii had 100 mil userbase-   so i can t imagine they will support a userbase of under 10 mill on a console they are losing money on better than they dod the Wii (and they were also making money on the Wii hardware- something they are not doing so faron the Wii u (unless there is an update from Nitendo saying otherwise that i have not seen yet)

The Wii was released 2006 and ended 2012 before the release of the Wii U, 6 year life cycle is what everyone in the 7th gen had

but they barely released any games for the wii u the last 2 years  and they barely released any games for the Wii U the 1 st year