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HollyGamer on 21 June 2015

If it's a tablet design and can be played on large monitor as well and the concept is a fusion of handled (tablet) and console, then it will have less graphic performance then PS4 or Xbox one, my suspicion it will use the same architecture like Wii U but with smaller component and design and also include with touch screen.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 June 2015
marioboy2004 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Nintendo has always gone the cheap route compared to their competitors. This has always failed them outside of the Wii, which was primarily purchased because of the gimmick coupled with the price. They've always priced their consoles fairly. I would dare say that Microsoft and Sony ask for more, but then again they listen to third party while looking out for their own interests. They find a common ground. If Nintendo wants a larger marketshare with a more serious group of purchasing customers they will need the help of third party much like the NES and SNES era. If Nintendo is going to be the weakest console it only need be one of a slight margin, not a large one as they have tended to be for the last two generations.

Well 3DS did poorly early on until the price was reduced. N64 and Gamecube didn't do mega numbers at a relatively low price, but they also didn't bomb like Wii U. The original Wii was a great success because price and gimmick. A high priced Wii wouldn't have been as successful.

If the Wii U launched for $199 and the tablet was optional (only required for a few titles), I guarantee their situation would be less bleak. Nintendo doesn't need a massive userbase to move a lot of software. But their current userbase is just abysmal.

Nintendo doesn't need core 3rd party games, we already have Playstation, Xbox, and PC vying for that. Nintendo has a loyal following and an ability to appeal to casual audience. They also have a mobile console market locked. Again, their best bet is giving us a home/portable console. They don't need a machine with cutting edge graphics, that isn't their audience.


The casual audience is fickle and payed no attention to the Wii U, they are still with their wiis in the closet and only play it when family comes around (much like scrabble or monopoly).  Nintendo wanted to appease this audience and the hardcore audience with the Wii U.. unfortunately the casual audience never bought in and the 10 million who bought Wii U are hardcore.  Alot of people left nintendo for sony/xbox.  If they could get these people to buy NX as a secondary console then Nintendo would probably be selling much more..

Alot of core gamers say I want to play Bayonetta 2 and Zelda but I wouldn't buy a 350$ system for 2 games.  Nintendo needs to create IP that appeals to this core audience and Splatoon is a step in the right direction.  They also need development help in creating games more consistently throughout the year.


Most gamers play third party. If Nintendo had a console with the right power and the proper amount of third party those who like their first party more will tag along with their console. Hiding behind niche games wont save them. I thought they were more wise than this.



Miyamotoo on 21 June 2015
illdill1987 said:
It better be more powerful. Wii U is only suffering because it is underpowered. It has so many great games but most are not willing to pay for a console with slightly better than last gen graphics.

So wrong, Wii U is mostly failure because of bad and terrible marketing, weak launch titles, software drouth...



Miyamotoo on 21 June 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
No. Nintendo needs more power than that. By the time Nintendo launches the NX the next consoles will have already been planned and they will be behind again. Their inability to work with third parties and their development schedule for the consoles hurt them.

Why does it need more power than that?

People don't buy Nintendo consoles to play the same games on PS4/X1. Low price is more crucial to a Nintendo platform than power. One of the biggest issues with Wii U is its not cheap enough thanks to that tablet controller.

As I said already, they need to bridge the gap between home console and portable platform. It also needs to be cheap, like launch for $199-249. If they can make that happen they will certainly have something more successful than Wii U even if its power is at par with Wii U. Graphics is not the problem with that platform.

Its very very unrealistic to expect that new console can cost $199-200, if we look dollar value through history when consoles are launched, that would be probably be cheapest new home console in history. $300 for Nintendo next console is much more realistic.



OttoniBastos on 21 June 2015

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Mr Puggsly on 21 June 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Most gamers play third party. If Nintendo had a console with the right power and the proper amount of third party those who like their first party more will tag along with their console. Hiding behind niche games wont save them. I thought they were more wise than this.

 

More power doesent get great 3rd party support. Wii U isnt even getting ports of 7th gen games because that audience doesent buy those games.

Nintendo trying to be successful with core 3rd party fans is like MS trying to appeal to Japan. Its a lost cause and other companies already have it locked. Fans of 3rd parties also have more interest in Sony and MS games.



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Mr Puggsly on 21 June 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
No. Nintendo needs more power than that. By the time Nintendo launches the NX the next consoles will have already been planned and they will be behind again. Their inability to work with third parties and their development schedule for the consoles hurt them.

Why does it need more power than that?

People don't buy Nintendo consoles to play the same games on PS4/X1. Low price is more crucial to a Nintendo platform than power. One of the biggest issues with Wii U is its not cheap enough thanks to that tablet controller.

As I said already, they need to bridge the gap between home console and portable platform. It also needs to be cheap, like launch for $199-249. If they can make that happen they will certainly have something more successful than Wii U even if its power is at par with Wii U. Graphics is not the problem with that platform.

Its very very unrealistic to expect that new console can cost $199-200, if we look dollar value through history when consoles are launched, that would be probably be cheapest new home console in history. $300 for Nintendo next console is much more realistic.


No, consoles have launched for about 200-250 in the 6th and 7th gen.

Wii U could have launched for 250 if it wasnt for that tablet.



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globalisateur on 21 June 2015

I seriously doubt NX (which most likely will be a tablet IMO) will even have PS4 specs.



fps_d0minat0r on 21 June 2015

No because its best case scenario would still only be X1 level performance. Based on the prediction that it will have less third party support than the PS4 or the X1, it will still perform the worst in sales.

And by the time thats out, PS4 and X1 slims will be out and selling for much less and have established a larger collection of users, games, apps, peripherals and basically anything a gamer could want.

Ofcourse nintendo has exclusives, but people would buy a system for those exclusives regardless of the systems specifications.

I think its in the same situation as wii U. few people chose that over PS3/360 in its early days and few people chose it over a PS4/X1 later on. I think few people will choose NX over a PS4/X1 in its early days and they will be all over the PS5 and X2 when they come out. They should have waited imo.



Guitarguy on 21 June 2015

Would have to be more powerful because it is launching against a console which will probably have a user base of like 40 million(if not more) by that time so why would developers bother making games on a console with the same power but far far fewer consumers?