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Forums - Sales - The official NPD February 2008 thread

Very high hardware numbers for almost all consoles. DS is incredible, Wii is back at its usual 2007 level, PS2 is up to 350k out of nowhere and PS3 manages to hold its January level of sales, which is a good sign for it. 360 is not that far behind, so for the next few months it will be interesting to see if 360 can regain the lead and if so with what margin.

Software seems good for 360, although only top 10 doesn't say it all. According to Microsoft they had 184M revenue in software sales, compared to 130M for Wii and 97M for PS3. (Source: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15958/February-2008-NPD-Microsofts-Response/ ) Nintendo provided total unit numbers for its 2 platforms, DS sold 3.6M units of software and Wii sold 2.9M units. (Source: http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=14794 ) Overall it seems almost all platforms had good to great software sales. In units I don't think the difference it totals for Wii and 360 will be that big, and PS3 selling over 50% in revenue compared to 360 seems pretty good as well considering the difference in userbase.

Some remarks about individual titles:
- Devil May Cry didn't do too well, especially compared to what we have seen in the weekly American sales and the shipment number released by Capcom.
- CoD4 for 360 is a real monster, 4 months in a row at the top of the rankings is very impressive, as is selling almost 300k units in its 4th month.
- Guitar Hero III on Wii has been the best selling platform for the title for 2 months in a row now. If this continues into the future it could become the best selling platform among the current generation consoles. It won't get near PS2 though.



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Deviation59 said:
loadedstatement said:
sharky3 said:
Didn't Target have a $99 sale on PS2? That probably accounts for a lot of it's bump.

Vgchartz numbers wrong again, the usual. Any generic prediction would be at least as accurate as vgchartz.

That'll probably get me banned but oh well, just the truth.

 

First of all, NPD just PREDICTS. Just like VGC. These are not numbers from Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony. Keep in mind we track all of NA, not just USA. You are massively uninformed and extremely pessimistic. If you do not enjoy the website or the numbers we produce, please do us all a favor and leave.

Predict != estimate. NPD and VGC both estimate based on a percentage of sales figures and formulas. NPD is more accurate by nature of collecting in the neighborhood of 4-6 times as much data as VGC.

Don't get me wrong though, VGC is still quite cool and useful.


 The data really gurantees nothing.  You could get away with a smaller statistical sample then VGchartz has and get it right if you've got a good enough formula.  Formula is everything.

Well almost everything.  Every once in a while with a small data set you can get set way askew every once in a while. 

 



URNotE said:
yea its like 360 fans are pinning all hopes on GTAIV....

 It will be interesting to see the April numbers for sure.  May 13 or whenever the April numbers come out will tell a lot more about where this is headed.

 I think the PS3 software numbers do indicate a lot of Blu-Ray intensive buyers.  It's curious that the PS3 software numbers aren't bigger.  Who buys consoles without games?  I can't quite wrap my head around that.  

 The most impressive number here is PS2.  If you look at PSP/PS2/Wii/DS it shows that price is a huge factor.  The industry's doing well, but the U.S. economy sucks.  The gameheads will still buy stuff, but the masses will go for the cheaper stuff.  Price cuts may play a big role in this yet, it seems. 



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

Resitance has never been a pack in. Atleast not in the US.



Deviation59 said:

 Obliterate? I dunno about that. I don't think it will be at all similar to the DMC4 ratio, however. I expect GTA IV to track very similarly to Assassin's Creed (in ratios - GTA will obviously sell more copies).

 Assassin's Creed figures: Worldwide, the 360 leads at a 1.5:1 ratio at 3.51 million to 2. 34 million.

 However, the ratio is higher in America, where the 360 leads at a 2.4:1 ratio at 2.3 million to .96 million. The ratio for GTA IV might be better than that by a slight margin because GTA is still thought of by many as a Playstation brand.

 GTA will sell better on the 360 in America and better on the PS3 in Europe and the larger install base in America will lead to higher overall sales for the 360 version with the PS3 version still posting very respectable numbers.


  One thing to consider there is the replayability of GTA versus Assassin's Creed and the number of used sales available.

 If a game like Creed is for lots of people a one-time through game, used game sales will eat into more of the sales.  It's going to be way easier to find A.C. used 360 copies than PS3 ones, and way harder to find any GTA IV ones because the game will last longer. 

Because of the higher install base of 360, more copies of GTA will be sold, and because it will not be resold as fast, the ratio of sales will be higher, I'd say.   Who's gonna sell back their GTA on either console initially, with all of the content coming?  That's one real reason developers push DLC and at strategic times if they are smart- to keep people from using used stores to eat into their sales.  

 Add them together (with the bonus content for 360 - I for one have both consoles and will buy the 360 version for that reason) and you figure the 360 to PS3 ratio would be higher for GTA than Creed.

 

Dunno if I explained myself clearly, but there is logic in there somewhere. 



Can't we all just get along and play our games in peace?

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ioi said:
azrm2k said:
DMeisterJ said:
ioi said:
Look at those DS numbers! Undertracked in Jan, anyone?

I don't get it?

[maybe i'm slow]


I'm not sure either but maybe he's implying that NPD undertracked DS in Jan and "corrected" itself by giving it a boost in Feb.


Just a theory...

I think you and I both know its correct, but we have to call it a theory because we can't "prove" it, nor do we feel a need too do so.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

PlayStation 2 351.8K
PlayStation 3 280.8K
Xbox 360 254.6K



darthdevidem01 said:
@leo-j

trolling?

I remember how smug ninty fanboys were, now that Ps3 is having a turn around which has never been seen before in the games industry it is time to give it its due..

Actually, sorry, but it's not blowing any records away or anything. It's just finally selling averagely. Good selling systems, like the Wii, and DS, are still blowing it out of the water.

 

Unless you mean "turnaround" as in, it was considered a failure, and now we're actually happy to see that it can sell at a respectable level, because for a while we weren't sure.

 

You might wanna wait until the PS3 actually isn't in dead last place of the static figures amongst all of the consoles currently on the market, before you start the parade. 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

All is right in the world when Ninty is #1 & #2 for the month.



WiiFit will be 2008 #1 selling game in NORTH AMERICA!  
End of '08 Predictions: Wii - 48m X360 - 25m  PS3 - 19m
Wii monthly NA sales will top 400k every month in '08. *Jan sales ruined it. Grrrr!*
WiiFit will top 1m in sales in its first month of release in North America.
MGS4 will NOT be released in '08. *Darn it!* FF13 will NOT be released in '08.
Rockband Wii will top 600k in first month sales in North America.
WiiFit will pass the PS3 WW sales by Xmas '09.

@ Dolla

You my friend, are full of win.