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Forums - Sales Discussion - Wii U fails to reach 10 mil by E3

MikeRox on 11 June 2015
curl-6 said:
MikeRox said:

Go ahead and do that, it doesn't really change anything - According to VGC which has Dreamcast at 8.2m units to the general figure of 10.6m.

Wii U  - USA - 4.5m
Europe - 2.27m

Dreamcast - USA - 3.9m 
Europe - 1.91m

Even if you add that 12 months for Japan, the pace is about the same. I don't think there is any way it is possible for you to attempt to spin this in a positive light.

According to this graph, sourced from Famitsu, ( http://i.imgur.com/fXy4i.png ) DC sold 1.1m in it's first year in Japan. Take that away from it's total sales (which top out at 10.6m, though I'm informed that this figure is heavily overtracked it was actually around 9.3m) and you get a maximum (likely excessive) figure of 9.5m, which Wii U passed back in March. 

The actual figures probably put Dreamcast's post-first-year sales at around 8.2m, which Wii U passed some time ago.


Which again, doesn't put anything for Wii U in a positive light and doesn't alter the fact that SEGA announced it was discontinuing the Dreamcast 17 months into it's US life and 16 months into it's European life. Remember, those undertracked VGC sales (still a million lower than what you said) were likely from Europe as it's the region without accurate stat tracking and Western sales are still about where the Wii U is after 30+ months.

Anyway, not really any more to say on it so I'll leave it at that.



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curl-6 on 11 June 2015
MikeRox said:
curl-6 said:

According to this graph, sourced from Famitsu, ( http://i.imgur.com/fXy4i.png ) DC sold 1.1m in it's first year in Japan. Take that away from it's total sales (which top out at 10.6m, though I'm informed that this figure is heavily overtracked it was actually around 9.3m) and you get a maximum (likely excessive) figure of 9.5m, which Wii U passed back in March. 

The actual figures probably put Dreamcast's post-first-year sales at around 8.2m, which Wii U passed some time ago.


Which again, doesn't put anything for Wii U in a positive light and doesn't alter the fact that SEGA announced it was discontinuing the Dreamcast 17 months into it's US life and 16 months into it's European life. Remember, those undertracked VGC sales (still a million lower than what you said) were likely from Europe as it's the region without accurate stat tracking and Western sales are still about where the Wii U is after 30+ months.

Anyway, not really any more to say on it so I'll leave it at that.

I never said Wii U's sales were good, (they're not, obviously) I just took issue with the claim Wii U has had twice as long on the market to outsell DC.



FarleyMcFirefly on 12 June 2015

Wii U is the best console I have ever played on.

Deserves SNES level sales at least IMO.

So damn fun.



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JNK on 12 June 2015

where di u get the info it failed? It got 9,7m on may 16th and just had a big game release (splatoon) which might boost sales for 300k last month.



DonFerrari on 12 June 2015

Seems like it won't cross 10M sold to end customers before E3.

And why the obsession with selling a little above DC, which were a total lame job outside of hw and some games? It was sega swan song and beating it is meaningless even more for a company dropping 85-90% from previous system numbers.



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Dr.Vita on 12 June 2015
JNK said:
where di u get the info it failed? It got 9,7m on may 16th and just had a big game release (splatoon) which might boost sales for 300k last month.


It is overtracked on this site (300-400k).




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DonFerrari on 12 June 2015
JNK said:
where di u get the info it failed? It got 9,7m on may 16th and just had a big game release (splatoon) which might boost sales for 300k last month.

WiiU is 200-300k overtracked here. Even if it wasn't with sales bellow 40k per week it would still left uncovered 140k that I don't think splatoon boost would cover. So when considering the overtrack make it rather unlikely.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

megafenix on 12 June 2015

We can just speculate how much wii u has sold until now sicne from may 7(9.54 million), but with the launch of splatoon maybe wii u may reach 10 million before E3, the possibility is there although the time left to do it it is short



MikeRox on 12 June 2015

Well, the sub 50k in the US for May (Inc Splatoon launch week) and 20k a week in Japan for the past 2 week isn't a big enough boost to take it over the 10m mark in time for E3 I don't think.

Either way, I'd love to know what the boost in Europe has been. I mean Splatoon charted nicely in 2nd in the UK (one of Nintendos weakest EU territories) and held onto 5th in Week 2.



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curl-6 on 12 June 2015
DonFerrari said:

And why the obsession with selling a little above DC, which were a total lame job outside of hw and some games? It was sega swan song and beating it is meaningless even more for a company dropping 85-90% from previous system numbers.

Because people insist on claiming things like "it won't outsell the Dreamcast" or "it's had twice as long on the market as the Dreamcast and hasn't sold as much", which are provably incorrect.