i doubt say could more as witcher 3

I think we all agree it won't be as big, but I still think we'll see a sizable leaps especially with third parties, partially down to standard logic of devs getting better with said hardware as you say but also extrernal technologies becoming better and more efficient. photogrammetry is something I think is just beginning to be utilised in game worlds (star wars Battlefront for example) and the result is something far more convincing the what we've seen thus far this gen. 

I think this E3 in particular will be very informative on the issue.

If I wanted a good estimate of how well the PS4's power had been utilised thus far, I wouldn't be asking the CEO.

You dont need time, its clearly evident in games that have been built for the current gen. The difference between 7th gen, cross gen and 8th gen games is as clear as day, even on PC. It will only get better, no one can deny it.

It's just that I always see PS3 and 360 held up as an example of how much progress can be made this gen graphically, and I think that's just setting people up for disappointment.

Those TLOU pics are the same, just a different resolution. The level of detail between both versions is relatively the same, just the PS4 version runs a lot better and uses the cutscene character models in real time. 

With off the shelf hardware this gen, good luck with that.



Also making a notce of the people that are all for graphics since when a game fails to live up to those expecations of the past, people tend to turn coat and claim "graphics don't have to be amazing" to defend their previous talks.

 I don't know, this is Rockstar, one of the biggest and most funded devs in the industry. When people though PS360 were capped off, they brought us GTA5, which pretty much blew every other game out of the water, graphically. I'm very interested to see how a potential Red Dead sequel and GTA6 will look. 

Chazore said: With off the shelf hardware this gen, good luck with that. Also making a notce of the people that are all for graphics since when a game fails to live up to those expecations of the past, people tend to turn coat and claim "graphics don't have to be amazing" to defend their previous talks.

 Depends on the game, really. I think it's more or less people feel that reolution and framerate don't need to be top of the line for a game to still look and run good. i.e. Just because isn't 1080p/ 60 FPS doesn't mean it's automatically a graphical failure. :|

One is prerendered video and the other is running in real time.

In addition to the enhanced character models, the cutscenes use superior shadows, textures, effects and post-processing compared the actual in-game PS3 graphics. Showing a pre-rendered cutscene shows nothing about PS3's graphical capabilities except that it can play HD full motion video.