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Dr.Vita on 16 May 2015
uran10 said:
Dr.Vita said:


This is just speculation.
Vita could get a price-cut, we could see Gravity Rush 2, we could see the 3000 model... A lot things could happen! 
Vita is doing better in the west this year than last year. 2015 is not 2014.


sigh Vita has peaked. Wii U has shown that it hasn't yet. Vita is sellign less Wii U is selling more. I don't see how anyone can expect the vita to outsell the Wii U if its gap last year was much bigger and it got passed in 3 weeks. Do you know how many weeks Wii U won over Vita in 2014 before may? 3. Do you know how many it won this time around? A lot more.

Vita outselling Wii U lifetime wont happen.


Wii U has no system seller this year, last year there were Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. 
With no big holiday game this year Wii U won't reach 2014 holiday sales.
NX (next Nintendo home console) was already teased. This is not a good sign (and yes, I believe that NX is the next Nintendo home console). PS Vita first half of 2014 was very good and 2nd half of 2014 was terrible. This year the first half looks good and the 2nd should be also good. It is getting much more games in 2nd hald of 2015 than 2nd half 2014. Just wait, gap between 2014 and 2015 will get smaller in the 2nd half of 2015.  And PS Vita is huge undertracked on this site!


Edit: Last year was Wii U's peak year with Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros!




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Ryng on 16 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

"The Ps Vita so far this year has outsold the Wii U worldwide"
Like last year. With a important difference, this time the WU is up YOY, and Vita massive down. And what's happen at the end of last year? We all know...

People STILL don't understand that the the reason of WU > PSV in 2014 is the holidays sales...
The ONLY way for Vita beat WU, is selling more during the holiday. Will happen? No. 
And if you think Vita will beat WU in the holidays sales... can you say how is possible?

Vita is dead outside Japan. WU in Europe and US sell bad, but not at the "doomed" level.

Vita in Japan MUST sell more than WU in the US for beat it globally. and not. i seriusly doubt.


This is just speculation.
Vita could get a price-cut, we could see Gravity Rush 2, we could see the 3000 model... A lot things could happen! 
Vita is doing better in the west this year than last year. 2015 is not 2014.

This isn't speculation, this is FACT.

WU always disintegrate Vita during the holidays, even in Japan (the bigger Vita market ever).

And in the US no contest. Vita sell 1/4 of WU in the best case.

Is happen in 2012. 2013. 2014.  so, why 2015 will be different?

"Vita can have a 3000 version" last year was TV version, and still not even close with WU.

"Vita can have a pricedrop" like WU... and a WU pricedrop is gonna to be bigger than PSV.

 

Also, pls, stop with the story of "Vita will have better legs", because as for now, WU have MUCH better legs than Vita. is fact.

PSV sales 2012 -----> down in 2013 --------> down in 2014 --------> down in 2015 (as for now)

WU sales 2013 -----> up in 2014 ---------> up in 2015 (as for now)

 

So... you think PSV will outsell WU during the holidays? Say jus yes or no.



Dr.Vita on 16 May 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

"The Ps Vita so far this year has outsold the Wii U worldwide"
Like last year. With a important difference, this time the WU is up YOY, and Vita massive down. And what's happen at the end of last year? We all know...

People STILL don't understand that the the reason of WU > PSV in 2014 is the holidays sales...
The ONLY way for Vita beat WU, is selling more during the holiday. Will happen? No. 
And if you think Vita will beat WU in the holidays sales... can you say how is possible?

Vita is dead outside Japan. WU in Europe and US sell bad, but not at the "doomed" level.

Vita in Japan MUST sell more than WU in the US for beat it globally. and not. i seriusly doubt.


This is just speculation.
Vita could get a price-cut, we could see Gravity Rush 2, we could see the 3000 model... A lot things could happen! 
Vita is doing better in the west this year than last year. 2015 is not 2014.

This isn't speculation, this is FACT.

WU always disintegrate Vita during the holidays, even in Japan (the bigger Vita market ever).

And in the US no contest. Vita sell 1/4 of WU in the best case.

Is happen in 2012. 2013. 2014.  so, why 2015 will be different?

"Vita can have a 3000 version" last year was TV version, and still not even close with WU.

"Vita can have a pricedrop" like WU... and a WU pricedrop is gonna to be bigger than PSV.

 

Also, pls, stop with the story of "Vita will have better legs", because as for now, WU have MUCH better legs than Vita. is fact.

PSV sales 2012 -----> down in 2013 --------> down in 2014 --------> down in 2015 (as for now)

WU sales 2013 -----> up in 2014 ---------> up in 2015 (as for now)

 

So... you think PSV will outsell WU during the holidays? Say jus yes or no.


Do you have a proof with PS Vita sales in 2014? You are using VGChartz numbers for that year. Wii U is heavily overtracked and Vita is heavily undertracked on this site.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2012.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2013.
Vita (including PSP) was bigger than Wii U in 2014! (we don't know how much Vita alone did)
Vita could be bigger than Wii U in 2015. 




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Playstation Vita Japan Retail Software Sales (2013 vs 2014 vs 2015 + 2015 LTD Edition)
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Goodnightmoon on 16 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
uran10 said:


sigh Vita has peaked. Wii U has shown that it hasn't yet. Vita is sellign less Wii U is selling more. I don't see how anyone can expect the vita to outsell the Wii U if its gap last year was much bigger and it got passed in 3 weeks. Do you know how many weeks Wii U won over Vita in 2014 before may? 3. Do you know how many it won this time around? A lot more.

Vita outselling Wii U lifetime wont happen.


Wii U has no system seller this year, last year there were Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. 
With no big holiday game this year Wii U won't reach 2014 holiday sales.
NX (next Nintendo home console) was already teased. This is not a good sign (and yes, I believe that NX is the next Nintendo home console). PS Vita first half of 2014 was very good and 2nd half of 2014 was terrible. This year the first half looks good and the 2nd should be also good. It is getting much more games in 2nd hald of 2015 than 2nd half 2014. Just wait, gap between 2014 and 2015 will get smaller in the 2nd half of 2015.  And PS Vita is huge undertracked on this site!


Edit: Last year was Wii U's peak year with Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros!

WiiU: Mario Party 10 + Splatoon + Yoshi Woolly World + Star Fox + Xenoblade Chronicles X + Mario Maker + E3 unnanounced games (Animal Crossing/ Paper Mario/Metroid)

VS

Vita: ehmmm ... something outside Japan?

Don´t do this to yourself...



Ryng on 16 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

This isn't speculation, this is FACT.

WU always disintegrate Vita during the holidays, even in Japan (the bigger Vita market ever).

And in the US no contest. Vita sell 1/4 of WU in the best case.

Is happen in 2012. 2013. 2014.  so, why 2015 will be different?

"Vita can have a 3000 version" last year was TV version, and still not even close with WU.

"Vita can have a pricedrop" like WU... and a WU pricedrop is gonna to be bigger than PSV.

 

Also, pls, stop with the story of "Vita will have better legs", because as for now, WU have MUCH better legs than Vita. is fact.

PSV sales 2012 -----> down in 2013 --------> down in 2014 --------> down in 2015 (as for now)

WU sales 2013 -----> up in 2014 ---------> up in 2015 (as for now)

 

So... you think PSV will outsell WU during the holidays? Say jus yes or no.


Do you have a proof with PS Vita sales in 2014? You are using VGChartz numbers for that year. Wii U is overtracked and Vita is undertracked on this site.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2012.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2013.
Vita could have been bigger than Wii U in 2014! (we don't know that)
Vita could be bigger than Wii U in 2015. 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH you.

WU above PSV in ALL holidays is fact, accept this.

Media Create confirmed.

NPD confirmed.

Sony and Nintendo shipment numbers confimed.

Those 3 source are not good for you?

Vita have not a chance in the hell for have outsold WU in the 2012/2013/2014 holidays.

 

You still don't reply me. Do you think PSV sell more than WU this holidays? say just yes or no.



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Dr.Vita on 16 May 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Dr.Vita said:


Wii U has no system seller this year, last year there were Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. 
With no big holiday game this year Wii U won't reach 2014 holiday sales.
NX (next Nintendo home console) was already teased. This is not a good sign (and yes, I believe that NX is the next Nintendo home console). PS Vita first half of 2014 was very good and 2nd half of 2014 was terrible. This year the first half looks good and the 2nd should be also good. It is getting much more games in 2nd hald of 2015 than 2nd half 2014. Just wait, gap between 2014 and 2015 will get smaller in the 2nd half of 2015.  And PS Vita is huge undertracked on this site!


Edit: Last year was Wii U's peak year with Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros!

WiiU: Splatoon + Yoshi Woolly World + Star Fox + Xenoblade Chronicles X + Mario Maker + E3 unnanounced new games(Animal Crossing/ Paper Mario/Metroid)

VS

Vita: ehmmm ... something outside Japan?

Don´t do this to yourself...


Nothing of them is as big as Mario Kart 8 and Smash. And in 2014 there were also Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong, Hyrule Warriors... on Wii U. 2014 was much better than 2015 for Wii U. Deal with it.

And where do you know that we won't get Vita games? Vita's future is looking good so far. Resident Evil Revelations 2, God Eater 2: Rage Burst (trademark), Digimon Cyber Sleuth (50k petetion), Assassin's Creed Chronicles (leaked on the same Brazilian site of Gears of War Remastered), XCOM Enemy Within (leaked on the same Brazilian site of Gears of War Remastered)... We have tons of awesome indies (Salt & Sanctuary, OlliOlli 2) and we have Playstation Now, where we can play every Playstation game on Vita. And don't forget remote play which works awesome with 60FPS. 





Dr.Vita talks about Playstation Vita in 2016!
Playstation Vita Media Create Sales (2014 vs 2015 vs 2016)
Playstation Vita Japan Retail Software Sales (2013 vs 2014 vs 2015 + 2015 LTD Edition)
Prediction: Nothing will outsell PSP anymore (except Playstation home consoles)

Dr.Vita on 16 May 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

This isn't speculation, this is FACT.

WU always disintegrate Vita during the holidays, even in Japan (the bigger Vita market ever).

And in the US no contest. Vita sell 1/4 of WU in the best case.

Is happen in 2012. 2013. 2014.  so, why 2015 will be different?

"Vita can have a 3000 version" last year was TV version, and still not even close with WU.

"Vita can have a pricedrop" like WU... and a WU pricedrop is gonna to be bigger than PSV.

 

Also, pls, stop with the story of "Vita will have better legs", because as for now, WU have MUCH better legs than Vita. is fact.

PSV sales 2012 -----> down in 2013 --------> down in 2014 --------> down in 2015 (as for now)

WU sales 2013 -----> up in 2014 ---------> up in 2015 (as for now)

 

So... you think PSV will outsell WU during the holidays? Say jus yes or no.


Do you have a proof with PS Vita sales in 2014? You are using VGChartz numbers for that year. Wii U is overtracked and Vita is undertracked on this site.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2012.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2013.
Vita could have been bigger than Wii U in 2014! (we don't know that)
Vita could be bigger than Wii U in 2015. 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH you.

WU above PSV in ALL holidays is fact, accept this.

Media Create confirmed.

NPD confirmed.

Sony and Nintendo shipment numbers confimed.

Those 3 source are not good for you?

Vita have not a chance in the hell for have outsold WU in the 2012/2013/2014 holidays.

 

You still don't reply me. Do you think PSV sell more than WU this holidays? say just yes or no.


Wii U will do better than Vita in holidays, but overall Vita will win in the yearly battle (this is the important thing). Just look at shipments, Vita shipments always were better than Wii U shipments. 




Dr.Vita talks about Playstation Vita in 2016!
Playstation Vita Media Create Sales (2014 vs 2015 vs 2016)
Playstation Vita Japan Retail Software Sales (2013 vs 2014 vs 2015 + 2015 LTD Edition)
Prediction: Nothing will outsell PSP anymore (except Playstation home consoles)

Angelv577 on 16 May 2015

I think that a few holidays should give an edge to Wii U.



Ryng on 16 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
Dr.Vita said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

This isn't speculation, this is FACT.

WU always disintegrate Vita during the holidays, even in Japan (the bigger Vita market ever).

And in the US no contest. Vita sell 1/4 of WU in the best case.

Is happen in 2012. 2013. 2014.  so, why 2015 will be different?

"Vita can have a 3000 version" last year was TV version, and still not even close with WU.

"Vita can have a pricedrop" like WU... and a WU pricedrop is gonna to be bigger than PSV.

 

Also, pls, stop with the story of "Vita will have better legs", because as for now, WU have MUCH better legs than Vita. is fact.

PSV sales 2012 -----> down in 2013 --------> down in 2014 --------> down in 2015 (as for now)

WU sales 2013 -----> up in 2014 ---------> up in 2015 (as for now)

 

So... you think PSV will outsell WU during the holidays? Say jus yes or no.


Do you have a proof with PS Vita sales in 2014? You are using VGChartz numbers for that year. Wii U is overtracked and Vita is undertracked on this site.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2012.
Vita was bigger than Wii U in 2013.
Vita could have been bigger than Wii U in 2014! (we don't know that)
Vita could be bigger than Wii U in 2015. 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH you.

WU above PSV in ALL holidays is fact, accept this.

Media Create confirmed.

NPD confirmed.

Sony and Nintendo shipment numbers confimed.

Those 3 source are not good for you?

Vita have not a chance in the hell for have outsold WU in the 2012/2013/2014 holidays.

 

You still don't reply me. Do you think PSV sell more than WU this holidays? say just yes or no.


Wii U will do better than Vita in holidays, but overall Vita will win in the yearly battle (this is the important thing). Just look at shipments, Vita shipments always were better than Wii U shipments. 

WU shipment during holidays:

2012: 3,060,000

2013: 1,950,000

2014: 1,910,000

 

Vita never ship at this level during theholidays.



Goodnightmoon on 16 May 2015
Dr.Vita said:
Goodnightmoon said:

WiiU: Splatoon + Yoshi Woolly World + Star Fox + Xenoblade Chronicles X + Mario Maker + E3 unnanounced new games(Animal Crossing/ Paper Mario/Metroid)

VS

Vita: ehmmm ... something outside Japan?

Don´t do this to yourself...


Nothing of them is as big as Mario Kart 8 and Smash. And in 2014 there were also Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong, Hyrule Warriors... on Wii U. 2014 was much better than 2015 for Wii U. Deal with it.

And where do you know that we won't get Vita games? Vita's future is looking good so far. Resident Evil Revelations 2, God Eater 2: Rage Burst (trademark), Digimon Cyber Sleuth (50k petetion), Assassin's Creed Chronicles (leaked on the same Brazilian site of Gears of War Remastered), XCOM Enemy Within (leaked on the same Brazilian site of Gears of War Remastered)... We have tons of awesome indies (Salt & Sanctuary, OlliOlli 2) and we have Playstation Now, where we can play every Playstation game on Vita. And don't forget remote play which works awesome with 60FPS. 

Its hilarious that you actually think that the games I´m telling you are not system sellers just because they are not in the same level as mk8 or smah (Only CoD and GTA are on that level) and yet you think those downgraded ports of average games that are avalible everywhere else, some niche japanese game that nobody cares for and a few indies that you can even play on a 2007 computer are system sellers. I´m not the one that has to deal with anything man, you are setting yourself for the biggest dissapointment and your only excuse is that "VGC is undertracking Vita", that is an easy way to deny yourself and everyone the fact that Vita is going to be outsold by the worst selling Nintendo console ever.