MANUELF said: tombi123 said: If you look at previous SSB installments you will find out that it hardly sells 1m lifetime in Europe (SSB 0.65M, SSBM 1.14M). Halo 3's record is safe... until FFXIII ;P  FFXIII beat Halo 3 in his first week, good joke

This game has the best chance of beating Halo 3. Final Fantasy is the most front loaded series in the world. It will sell over a million in each region.

TWRoO said: Oyvoyvoyv said: @Tombi Yes, they only count for X360 No, they don't count for Ps3 X360 is selling a bit better than XB, but not too much to make a big difference. Ps3 is selling a lot less than both PsX and Ps. Wii is selling heaps more than N64 and GC. Wii has an entirely different userbase than it did before. Ok? Do you comprehend? You can't make blanket statements like that though, it depends entirely on the game. MP3 for instance hasn't done massively better than MP1 despite the Wiis userbase.... and GT5 will still do really well, because the type of people who play it are fanatics and will happily spend 400+Euros to get it... true it probably won't surpass GT4 (unless the PS3 really takes off casually) but it will still be comparable to it.

Now that you compared MP and MP3, you should compare Echoes and Corruption instead. Prime was semi-new IP, which was completely different from previous Metroids, when MP3 is a sequel, that doesn't bring that much new to the series. So, MP2->MP3, Melee->Brawl, MKDD->MKWii, SMS->SMG... But i agree about that it depends about a game, which actually proves what Oyvoy was saying...

i think first week is possible, but I also think first month is a given :)

TWRoO said: Oyvoyvoyv said: @Tombi Yes, they only count for X360 No, they don't count for Ps3 X360 is selling a bit better than XB, but not too much to make a big difference. Ps3 is selling a lot less than both PsX and Ps. Wii is selling heaps more than N64 and GC. Wii has an entirely different userbase than it did before. Ok? Do you comprehend? You can't make blanket statements like that though, it depends entirely on the game. MP3 for instance hasn't done massively better than MP1 despite the Wiis userbase.... and GT5 will still do really well, because the type of people who play it are fanatics and will happily spend 400+Euros to get it... true it probably won't surpass GT4 (unless the PS3 really takes off casually) but it will still be comparable to it.

Of course, it depends a lot on the game. But as I also mentioned: Wii has an entirely different userbase than it did before. Also, look at the quality line between MP1 and MP3. MP1 is, according to American reviewers, the 3rd best game ever. What is MP3? Nothing at all, compared to that.

MP1 was also something new, while MP3 is a sequal. MP2 can't be compared to MP3 neither, because a sequal on a new console usually sells better than a sequal on the same control.

Of course you can compare to it, but I was replying to a comment that was basically saying that somebody else was wrong, my point was solely proving that what the other person said wasn't wrong. I understand that what I did can't be used on all games, but it will be more correct than just saying that PS3 sequal will be equal to Ps2 game (or GC to Wii)

 

TWRoO said: Oyvoyvoyv said: @Tombi Yes, they only count for X360 No, they don't count for Ps3 X360 is selling a bit better than XB, but not too much to make a big difference. Ps3 is selling a lot less than both PsX and Ps. Wii is selling heaps more than N64 and GC. Wii has an entirely different userbase than it did before. Ok? Do you comprehend? You can't make blanket statements like that though, it depends entirely on the game. MP3 for instance hasn't done massively better than MP1 despite the Wiis userbase.... and GT5 will still do really well, because the type of people who play it are fanatics and will happily spend 400+Euros to get it... true it probably won't surpass GT4 (unless the PS3 really takes off casually) but it will still be comparable to it.

MP3 wasn't very hyped, and it's not exactly the kind of game that benefits massively from the Wii's large casual userbase.  SMG and especially SSBB can benefit from that.

Fastrabbit09 said: bigjon said: wenlan said: Excellent! Next big one is Mario Kart Wii! MK will be LUCKY to open with 500k. MK games are not HUGE launches, just good launches. 500k worldwide?  mk will def beat that ww it has a fair shot at beating that in just one region, but def ww it should do over 1mil first week ww

No I was saying lucky to get 500k in NA.

My prediction would be 400k NA, 250k Japan, 300k Others. around 900k WW.

I knew it! Let the VG$ roll in baby! I betted 500 vg$ that it will sell just under 2 million ^_^


the original Brawl US 1st week prediction thread

tombi123 said: So apparently sales from previous games in the same series only matter for PS3 and 360 games kthxbye.

They only matter if the previous games weren't under the radar, and the new game isn't the most hyped game in existance.

 

2 examples are MGS3 vs MGS4 and SSB:M vs SSB:B.

 

I wonder why we feel the need to compare and compete game sales against each other. If the games are within 100,000 of each other, on the internet, some fanboys will be "owned" but in reality, it doesn't matter one iota, one way or another. 

Auron said: MANUELF said: tombi123 said: If you look at previous SSB installments you will find out that it hardly sells 1m lifetime in Europe (SSB 0.65M, SSBM 1.14M). Halo 3's record is safe... until FFXIII ;P FFXIII beat Halo 3 in his first week, good joke  You do realise that the first FF on a system sells about 2mil first week in Japan alone?  Beat Halo for an FF is not hard at all.

why do people keep saying this? no previous ff sold 3.8 first week this one has smaller userbase and rpgs are past their most popular time nothing objectively points to ff beating 3.8mil

@Zen
You make some good points people should listen to, if you think about it squeals that aren't hyped usually sell around the same amount as the previous game, while hyped squeals usually do better, melee wasn't so hyped yet still did better then the N64 game on a smaller user base, this is probably due to word of mouth and people coming over to play the game liking it and going out and getting it.

Take in all the fans of the past game who most likely want it, then the hype behind it to get in the new people, then word of mouth, and you got yourself a much better launch and I see that happening in Europe too, I would say 1 million to 1.5 million first week in Europe.