Defined by your arbitrary rule?

Yeah, I'll look at profits made instead.

You do realize the PS1 sold like shit at launch while the N64 didn't? Some food for thought for you. If you truly believe nothing would change if the N64 had an optical disk then it's best we drop this discussion.

I'm not too impressed by PS1's library by the way. I hear a lot more people talk about the N64 classics than the PS1 classics lol.

Its only selling well in japan but the 3ds slaughtered it lol

Do I even need to point out what all of them and soon the Wii U all have in common over the vita? (More sales.) You're seriously showing that you are nothing but......... yea.  Quite a lot of us here are fed up of your nintendo hate. You like the vita, we get that but stop. STOP this nonsense. If you don't you will really hate me down the road when I start to point out every single one of your fallacies in every single post you make. Stop now. Make vita threads and leave your nintendo hate out of it please.

Warned - Leadified

Just becuase I am saying that Nintendo home consoles sales were bad, means that I hate Nintendo? 

Consoles arent dying, because it still makes sense to buy a smaller device to play games which costs barley more than a graphicscards every 5 years, and its in your home and not on the go.

Everyone has now a smartphone which is a phone and also a gaming device, they are even now more powerfull than both the vita and 3DS. And with physical handheld games you cant carry your entire library around all the time, this making it unconfortable to own physical media for handhelds. So the physical media argument doesnt work too on handhelds unlike with consoles. You see now why portable dedicated gaming devices are dying?

And Nintendo releasing exclusive games for their handhelds who arent avaible on the wiiu shows whats wrong with handhelds, they need to release these games in order for people to buy and play on these devices. Even without any exclusives, consoles could still survive.

Nope, you predicted a 110M decline for HC this generation, they're dying too. HH will outlast HC, that's one thing I know.

Oh and you can download games on a HH you know. ;)

Smartphones have no buttons, so there will always be a market for HH gaming.

xbone and Wii U are selling like shit compared to a 4 year old HH. That's 2 out of 3 HC.

Doomed I tell you. ;)

I think u and others are getting a little carried away with the "handhelds are dying" bandwagon.

4th+5th+6th gen Nintendo handhelds (1989-2007)

Hardware-200.20 million, Software-878.52 million

Per generation, that is about 67 & 290 million repectively or roughly what 3DS is on track to sell with Vita going on to do similar to what Nintendo's competitors were able to go during those generations.

DS+PSP gave us a false sense of what handhelds should do in a single generation and sales have normalized.

wtf?????????? 

Which is why both Sony and MS are already looking to a post console future for video games. Why do you think Nintendo are experimenting in the mobile sector now?

The writing is on the wall for dedicated devices. It's just a matter of when that will be.

The reason Vita suffered disproportionately from mobile to the 3DS is quite simple. Many PSP owners bought them for the media capabilities as much as the gaming. Now that mobile offers all that, the biggest selling point Sony had is wiped out. Parents don't want their kids to have smartphones so there is still a market for the "child friendly" handheld device.

There will always be a core of people who want a dedicated handheld, who aren't under 12, however that isn't enough of a market for Sony and they haven't got the brand or IPs to compete with Nintendo in the under 12 market.

I honestly think they're doomed once home consoles cease to exist (gaming industry alone of course). There's no reason to subscribe to a PS platform to stream games. They should invest more money in their first party studios if they want to remain relevant.