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Which Gaming Brand is the Biggest?

Playstation 690 76.07%
 
Xbox 51 5.62%
 
Nintendo 124 13.67%
 
iOS 42 4.63%
 
Total:907
generic-user-1 on 18 April 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
Burek said:

That really makes no sense to me. Didn't PS1 also have competition in the market? Didn't Nintendo have a console then? Why would all of a sudden people who grew up on a Nintendo brand decide to give preference to an upstart Sony console instead to a proven Nintendo brand? One would guess that an existing and proven brand will be the first one to take advantage of a growing market.

Certainly Sony had to do many things right to attract all those Nintendo fans. You have to consider that the gaming market didn't grow of itself, but that Sony managed to put in an effort to expand the market outside existing userbase.

PS1 didn't have strong competition. Sega was struggling to stay relevant. N64 came later and didn't get great support primarily because carts were expensive and space was limited. Sony throwing money around for support didn't hurt either.

The competition screwed up and helped Playstation thrive. Sony eventually screwed up and allowed Xbox thrive, now we're seeing the opposite. Sometimes getting an edge on competition just happens from the mistakes of others.

sega wasnt struggling, they were lead by retarded monkeys, thats all. here take this sega cd, because the saturn isnt our future...



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Mr Puggsly on 18 April 2015
generic-user-1 said:

sega wasnt struggling, they were lead by retarded monkeys, thats all. here take this sega cd, because the saturn isnt our future...


Right...

I'm confused by this response. Its clear you understand Sega was making mistakes and that's why they struggled.



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Boosted on 18 April 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
Burek said:

That really makes no sense to me. Didn't PS1 also have competition in the market? Didn't Nintendo have a console then? Why would all of a sudden people who grew up on a Nintendo brand decide to give preference to an upstart Sony console instead to a proven Nintendo brand? One would guess that an existing and proven brand will be the first one to take advantage of a growing market.

Certainly Sony had to do many things right to attract all those Nintendo fans. You have to consider that the gaming market didn't grow of itself, but that Sony managed to put in an effort to expand the market outside existing userbase.

The market is always growing. Again, lets not give too much credit for the market growing when PS1 was around.

PS1 didn't have strong competition. Sega was struggling to stay relevant. N64 came later and didn't get great support primarily because carts were expensive and space was limited. Sony throwing money around for support didn't hurt either.

If Playstation wasn't around those other consoles would have EVENTUALLY performed fine, I think Saturn most notably becuase it used CDs. However, it was easy for a company like Sony to swoop in and take the market because Sega and Nintendo were making some bad moves. It was more difficult for MS to break into the market because they had tougher competition.

The competition screwed up and helped Playstation thrive. Sony eventually screwed up and allowed Xbox thrive, now we're seeing the opposite. Sometimes getting an edge on competition just happens from the mistakes of others.


Sony grew gaming they made it what it is.  If not for them no console what have broke 100m.   You should really get over your sony issues.

Lol easy yahh sure hater sure.



Mr.Playstation on 18 April 2015

I think in this case one needs to split the matter into the three main continents:

In the U.S the Xbox is by far a stronger brand. It was dominant before entering the gaming buisbess thanks to it's PC software and due to that people in the U.S are more accustomed to microsoft and so Microsoft's console is a stronger brand there.

In Europe there seems to be a general consensus that when mentioning a gaming console the name PlayStation is used to refer to one. It is by no means a surprise therefore that the PlayStation brand is stronger. The U.K seem to be the only exception as their culture is very similar to that in the U.S.

I'm not going to make a whole paragraph about Japan country. We all know whose the strongest of these two .



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generic-user-1 on 18 April 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
generic-user-1 said:

sega wasnt struggling, they were lead by retarded monkeys, thats all. here take this sega cd, because the saturn isnt our future...


Right...

I'm confused by this response. Its clear you understand Sega was making mistakes and that's why they struggled.

yeah my english is bad^^    sega didnt struggle because they were not cool or the market was shrinking, they struggle because they shot themself in the foot, time after time because they were idiots.  

the e3 2013 skynet presentation from m$ was a tiny mistake vs the the saturn isnt our future thingy...



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small44 on 18 April 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
small44 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

So Gameboy doesn't matter? Maybe we should give it some credit for making gaming fans. Instead people tend to give more credit to Playstation.

Right, 3rd parties would have made other platforms successful if PS1 didn't exist. Hence, the industry would have been fine without Playstation. That's all I'm saying. However, I believe compeition is a good thing so I'm glad Playstation does exist. Some people don't want Xbox to exist but they clearly make Sony work harder.


The thread is about xbox brand vs playstation brand and xbox don't have handheld i don't know why i should talk about Gameboy here.

Playstation fans will give credit to playstation ,Nintendo fans will give credits to Nintendo consoles,Microsoft will give credits to microsoft consoles,a fans of a singer or a football team will give credits to their favourite singer and football team nothing strange here,i'm not fans of any consoles i only buy a consoles if i like the games in this console.

You think before PS1 ,third party stay doing nothing!!!they was supporting the most succesfull console with games, yet none of home console sold over 100 millions before Playstation home consoles,PS3 had worse version of third party game yet it outsold XB360 it's mean that Playstation brand is stronger and there's 0 credits in what i'm saying

No home console sold over a 100 million because the market was still growing at that point.

In the 4th gen about 100 million consoles were sold. In the 5th gen about 140 million consoles were sold. In the 6th gen almost 200 million consoles were sold. In the 7th gen over 260 million consoles were sold (a low point for Playstation). Do you understand what I'm saying?

PS1 came when the market was ALREADY growing fast, that's a big reason it was able to sell 100 million. Many Gameboy owners also bought a PS1. PS1 wouldn't have done so if it came during the 16 bit era. Hence, PS1 was able to sell a 100 million because the market was big enough for it to do so at the time.

Why didn't PS3 sell 100 million units? Because the competition had great support, people were willing to play those same games on some non-Sony console.

Why the home console market didn't grow before ps1 came ? it's because  the main reason why home console market grow is Playstation.

The biggest contributors in gen over gen growth are playstation consoles and why it's not another console who had sold 100 millions instead of PS1? it's because Playstation brand was bigger then any other brand in Home consoles market ,if we talk about handheld then it's Nintendo.

PS3 didn't sell 100 millions because Xbox stole a big part of ps2 owners but PS3 sold more then XB360 despite a highter price and inferior  version of 3rd party games and coming 1 year and half later ,if Playstation brand was not stronger then Xbox brand XBOX360 would have  sell a lot better then PS3.

It's natural that the console with the  best support will win it has nothing to do with brand strength if ps3 was made by another brand it would have not even sold half of what ps3 sold.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

LurkerJ on 18 April 2015

Xbox brand is simply weak. No comparisons needed.



Sixteenvolt420 on 18 April 2015

Yes, Xbox is simply a weaker brand, especially this gen. They kinda screwed themselves early on, and that screwing continues.



Lafiel on 18 April 2015

I thought MS was in prime position to make their 8th gen console the best selling one. They outright won the US/NA and UK markets (probably the most profitable ones) even against the Wii and were making inroads to continental europe.
Their financial situation ofcourse is almost unrivaled (while Sony was struggling a lot in 2012/2013), so imo they could have easily released a more powerful console at a lower price and made sure they had many exclusives (even from traditional multi plat franchises) lined up, if they really wanted to take the VG console crown and dominate the business from here on out.

And then it pretty much all fell apart for them.



mophinz on 18 April 2015

98% of people in south east asia have no idea what "xbox" is. i WAS one of them