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Why did DmC Definitive Edition sell so badly?

It's a remake. 106 50.00%
 
Because they changed the ... 77 36.32%
 
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naruball on 17 April 2015
kristianity77 said:
naruball said:


in all seriousness, what was wrong with it? I played the first two levels without any problems without downloading the patch. Seemed fine to me. Do you think that the sales will go way up now? Cuz I seriously doubt that that was its main problem. People simply saw no reason to buy it. Some hate the reboot and its developers and others liked/loved it but already have the game, so why rebuy it?

For the record, I played and beat the ps3 version when it became available on ps+, but also bought the ps4 version day 1 to support the devlopers for, what I consider, an excellent game that they made.

This is what was wrong wrong with it.  Check out the game before patch and after patch:

The game at release for the PS4 was an absolute mess.

I don't think it stopped people buying it at the start, but it stopped a lot of people buying it as soon as word got out.  Whether this patch is enough to make a difference now or if its too late is a different matter.

Thanks for the info! I had no idea. I still believe that vocal minorities give most of the reason the wrong impression about certain games, but, of course, maybe this wasn't a vocal minority case. I consider myself a well-informed gamer and still didn't know about these problems. I assume that even if it did deter some people from buying it, the numbers were not that great. I doubt all that many people knew about it. It seems to me a case of "no one" cared for the game in the first place rather than issues that the game had pre-patch.



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kristianity77 on 17 April 2015
naruball said:
kristianity77 said:
naruball said:


in all seriousness, what was wrong with it? I played the first two levels without any problems without downloading the patch. Seemed fine to me. Do you think that the sales will go way up now? Cuz I seriously doubt that that was its main problem. People simply saw no reason to buy it. Some hate the reboot and its developers and others liked/loved it but already have the game, so why rebuy it?

For the record, I played and beat the ps3 version when it became available on ps+, but also bought the ps4 version day 1 to support the devlopers for, what I consider, an excellent game that they made.

This is what was wrong wrong with it.  Check out the game before patch and after patch:

The game at release for the PS4 was an absolute mess.

I don't think it stopped people buying it at the start, but it stopped a lot of people buying it as soon as word got out.  Whether this patch is enough to make a difference now or if its too late is a different matter.

Thanks for the info! I had no idea. I still believe that vocal minorities give most of the reason the wrong impression about certain games, but, of course, maybe this wasn't a vocal minority case. I consider myself a well-informed gamer and still didn't know about these problems. I assume that even if it did deter some people from buying it, the numbers were not that great. I doubt all that many people knew about it. It seems to me a case of "no one" cared for the game in the first place rather than issues that the game had pre-patch.


Yeah I don't think it would have made a massive difference if it had been like it should have been at release in terms of sales. Obviously I can only account for the fact that I was one person who didn't buy it because of these problems but I will now be buying it over the weekend.  I'm sure however that sales from now onwards will be higher than if it hadn't been rectified, even if its just by a small percentage. 



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naruball on 17 April 2015
kristianity77 said:


Yeah I don't think it would have made a massive difference if it had been like it should have been at release in terms of sales. Obviously I can only account for the fact that I was one person who didn't buy it because of these problems but I will now be buying it over the weekend.  I'm sure however that sales from now onwards will be higher than if it hadn't been rectified, even if its just by a small percentage. 


Here's hoping!



AlfredoTurkey on 17 April 2015

I don't know but I won't personally buy, rent or even play another DMC until it feels, looks and plays like the original DMC IP.



Kresnik on 17 April 2015
bigtakilla said:

Let's look at what these two games had going for and against them (using a + - system)

DmC
+ 4x the userbase of Wii U owners (~20 mil)
+ One of the biggest name franchise in the hack and slash genre
+ Consumers who tend to buy maturer rated titles (supposedly)

- Remake
- Of a game that never really sold that well to begin with
- Only one title in the release


Bayonetta 2
+ New game
+ Exclusive
+ Advertising campaign
+ Includes the previous game remastered

- Not the type of game people usually buy on this console (supposedly)
- Only 7mil people to possibly buy it
- A sequel to a game that never really sold that well to begin with. 


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Anyway, I added a few more bullet points to your surprisingly lacking list.



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Ganoncrotch on 17 April 2015
KdxlavkdX said:
It's just a remaster, not a whole new game.


Not to mention that not only was Bayo 2 a whole new game, but it came packaged with a touched up version of the first game too which had never appeared on a Nintendo system before. win/win.

Like others in the thread pointed out, not only was dmc hd touched up poorly at least on the ps4, but you also have to think that a lot of the ps4/x1 crowd will have owned or still own a ps360 and the version of dmc on those systems does them justice and it can be found for 1/10th the price.



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pokoko on 17 April 2015

Hm. Didn't Bloodborne, a new IP and an exclusive, out-sell both of those easily? 

So what do you guys think is the MAIN reason this happened?



Sixteenvolt420 on 17 April 2015

Bad remaster of a game which could never quite keep my attention, which is the reason i personally didn't buy it.



Fei-Hung on 17 April 2015

Yup, I think overall there are more people who were put off by the reboot than those who supported / liked it.

The HD trilogy with little to no marketing and being rare on release in the west outsold DmC. I remember no one had a copy in my city when it released so I had to Find a copy online.

As much as reviewers loved it and some gamers supported it, it simply want enough for the majority.

I think we will see higher sales for dmc4 remaster although it won't even get a physical release in the west.

When if ever will Capcom learn!



Zekkyou on 17 April 2015
pokoko said:

Hm. Didn't Bloodborne, a new IP and an exclusive, out-sell both of those easily? 

So what do you guys think is the MAIN reason this happened?

Magic, obviously. It's the only possible explanation for such a surprising turn of events :p