Dunban67 said:
Hedra42 said:
Dunban67 said:
Did you even read the article you linked? There is nothing false in it- Most of it was simply quoting spokesman from DeNA
DeNA is helping develop some of the games and they are helping them get to the mobile market- Besides who is doing excatly what between DeNA and Nintenod is not really the point of the article anyway- Is the repoting of a legit, tiley and pertinent story offnd your senses- there are plenty of Nintendo "echo chambers" on the net if that is what you are looking for- (the Wii U is sellng like gangbusters and the 3DS should surpass the DS in sales any day now- is that better?)
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@ Bolded: We've been through this already - DeNA is not 'helping develop some of the games'. Nintendo is developing the game product. DeNA is responsible for the service, as backed up with quotes from Iwata in previous posts.
Now do a Google search with the words Nintendo, DeNA, and Layoff.
Almost every news article concerning the layoffs has DeNA in the title, and identifies them as Nintendo's mobile partner. DeNA is clearly the subject of those articles. Gamespot's article does not even mention DeNA's company name anywhere in the title, making the negative focus of the news appear more Nintendo-centric than DeNA-centric.
This, I believe, is the point of SpokenTruth's post quoted above, and also the point of the backlash against the OP for choosing Gamespot's heading as the title of the thread and using Gamespot's article as their source.
This is not about posting stories that will 'offend the senses', it's how they're reported.
And note, that he said IF the article is outright false - he did not state that it is outright false. Except for the skewed focus of the article's title and the misinformation about DeNA developing the games in the final sentence, the rest of Gamespot's article on the layoffs contains pretty much the same details as most of the other reports.
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Iwata s quote said "primarily and mainly" not exclusivley- also depend s on your definition of development - they are still "helping get the games to the market- you guys are splitting hairs for not reason- the article is in no way inacurate- and most of the articles about the news release were quoting Gamespot- it is publc news- they were all cometng on the same news release from DeNA- It is hard to even call it an article as it is really a pretty straight forward reporting of news given by DeNA.
Look at the quotes you supplied by Iwata-- DeNA has alot more experiecne at making mobile games so they will be helping them with that aspect of it- at least a reasonable person can read that
I am sorry all Nintendo news is not in the echo chamber- and the part you guys are dispuitng really is not the point of the story anyway-
Outside of gaming sites people read and write abot Nintendo like any other company-
Why so sensistive about basic business news-
FYI did you know that the Wii u is still being sold at a loss? (at least according to Iwatas last publc comments on the matter from last year s Investor Q and A- I may have seen 1 or 2 people trying ot put the corrrect info out even though there were dozens of articlles and peole saying otherwsie based on 1 misinformed quote by a guy that did not represnt Nintendo- AKA when it comes ot Nintendo many of their more vocal fans seem to beleive what they want regardless of reason or fact
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You have gone from saying that DeNA is developing most of the games to DeNA is helping develop some of the games, to DeNA is helping get the games to the market.
You are saying that most other articles are quoting Gamespot, when in fact, Gamespot and the others were quoting from Gamesbeat, who had the exclusive (and incidentally, also ommitted DeNA's name from the title). Gamespot added on the part about DeNA 'helping to develop'.
Dunban, you are free to choose to believe second-hand information and you can interpret direct quotes from the companies in any way you wish, but it is clear to the rest of us that as far as role division is concerned, Nintendo is doing the "Product", i.e., developing the games and DeNA is doing the "Service" side of things, because those are where each company's strengths lie. There may be some crossover of roles in certain situations, they even hinted that might happen in the recent investor Q&A, but both CEOs have made that role division quite clear.
Despite this, you have demonstrated that there is likely to be much confusion and misinterpretation about how this partnership will work, so while only partially relevant to this topic, this was probably an important discussion to have.
Nobody is being sensitive about the news of the layoffs. What has irked people here is is that the title of Gamespot's article could have actually included DeNA in the title, and the OP could have chosen a more accurate article to quote.