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hsrob on 02 April 2015
WhiteEaglePL said:
Samus Aran said:

No, Metroid shouldn't be anything like Halo...

Ugh. Mainstream Nintendo fans really dislike options and evolution.....

That may be true but I don't consider trying to shoe-horn one genre into another, because of superficial similiarities, evolution.  I agree that Metroid can evolve but making it more like Halo in the ways described is not the path to take. 

I would also like to point out that Metroid had multiplayer once, fans were few and far betwween.



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curl-6 on 02 April 2015

Diddy Kong Racing 2, because Nintendo logic.

And how do we know this is legit, anyway? Retro are infamously tight-lipped, why would they blab to this guy?

Well, I guess we'll know soon enough; E3 is less than three months away. The crow will be delicious if I'm wrong.



Cobretti2 on 02 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
fory77 said:
I'm calling it now- F-Zero...

I really hate it when people beg Retro for F-Zero or Star Fox.

You got an F-Zero track in MK8 and they announced 200CC for it as well.

Is F-Zero and Star Fox all you people think about?

I'm hoping a new IP, Metroid or 3D DK platformer. An action RPG of Fire Emblem would be sweet.

But please don't put a team that is well known for exploration based games (yes even DKC: TF) on a racer that will sell 500k copies at best.

Sadly yes it is.

But that is not the worst part. They don't even want those franchises to evolve into 2015 standards. More fans here would be happy to see a remake of the N64 games in HD then combine the best elements of the N64, star fox adventures and star fox assult and make an epic game with a decent story line. Star fox has great potential for character building and getting the cast up to mario standard of popularity with general public if it evolves in a way they can relate to them, but knwoing NIntendo they will cave inand cater to just the 30-40year old men for nostalgia reasons who want to play pocket pool looking at a HD remake.



 

 

WhiteEaglePL on 02 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
WhiteEaglePL said:


I wish you sincere luck in everything. You clearly miss the point by miles. NOTHING wrong with having a amazing Metroid-level or better Story single player mode and a few online modes.

Kid Icarus Uprising did it right. Addictive modes of 6 players, ffa and a unique 3 v 3. Of ocurse, more maps and a bit more modes would be best but that's on a 3DS. 

Metroid will never sell millions without having a secondary compettitive aspect to it.  Look at Pokemon, Smash, Mario Kart........very compettitive and Pokemon still has a campaign, Smash still has plenty of single player modes, and Mario Kart still has standard set Grand Prix's. What on earth is wrong with coming back to the game to have more fun? 

You didn't ask for Metroid plus online, you asked for Metroid to be like Halo.

Metroid will never sell millions because it's not a mainstream game and online won't change that (look at Prime Hunters).

Kid Icarus Uprising didn't do anything right. They turned a Metroidvania game into a weird Japanese on-rails shooter with awkward controls.

Blame that for no C Stick in normal 3DS. Uprising rebooted the series after 25 years. That's a huge deal and if it was just a lame 2D thing like the nes/gb games then it would scream more like eshop than a 2012 game.

I recently finished 3D Classics Kid Icarus for the second time, and I must admit the only metroidvania stuff are the dungeons which are pretty repettitive as the moment you see certain things you know your going in the right direction. It was a bad metroidvania in that sense imo, but the highlight of the "just good" game were the boss battles and challenging platforming levels.



hsrob on 02 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
hsrob said:
Samus Aran said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:

I really hate it when people beg Retro for a new Metroid game.

Good for you, but if you read my post you would see I'm not doing that.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/695/f-zero-gx/

F-Zero doesn't deserve a sequel.

I don't want Retro making it either but that's a silly claim.

The last F-Zero game was a great game, even if sales weren't that great. The same can't be said for the last Metroid game which only sold twice what F-zero GX did on 5 times the install base with, I'm willing to bet, a significantly higher budget. We can't judge a franchise just off the most recent entry.

Nintendo's criteria for whether or not to make a sequel can't be purely based on sales because if that was the case many more franchises could justifiably be on the fiscal chopping block with those funds directed towards Nintendo's genuine blockbuster franchises. As the (almost) sole developer on their console Nintendo has a responsibility to deliver as diverse a library as possible, even if that means releasing games that don't see stellar sales.

Furthermore to suggest that 200cc in Mario Kart 8 should somehow supplant the desire for an F-Zero game is patently ridiculous.  You might as well argue that the need for a Metroid game should have been satisfied by the release of COD: Ghosts.

Metroid Prime sold 5 times as much on the same install base. ;)

F-Zero on the GBA sold 160k copies lol. Ten times less than Metroid: Fusion.

So the two latest F-Zero games bombed hard... You want to give it a third chance?

There were two other paragraphs in my post, conveniently overlooked ;)

Nintendo have made sequels to games that have sold less and not made sequels to games that have sold more.

F-Zero would not be a big risk to make.  They could even use the MK engine.



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Samus Aran on 02 April 2015
hsrob said:

There were two other paragraphs in my post, conveniently overlooked ;)

Nintendo have made sequels to games that have sold less and not made sequels to games that have sold more.

F-Zero would not be a big risk to make.  They could even use the MK engine.

What sequels have they made to games that sold less than 650k and 160k?

When I ask people what makes F-Zero so different from Mario Kart they say the speed. Well, now you got it.



Proxy-Pie on 02 April 2015
Roar_Of_War said:

Metroid wouldn't cease to be Metroid by including online multiplayer. Zelda too, tbh. Uncharted did it. 

It won't be COD level. Just a little mode that keeps people coming back for more than just the main story.

Metroid Prime Hunters had some of the best Online I've ever seen, probably the best in any Nintendo game, and that game came  out in 2006 :/



WhiteEaglePL on 02 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
hsrob said:

There were two other paragraphs in my post, conveniently overlooked ;)

Nintendo have made sequels to games that have sold less and not made sequels to games that have sold more.

F-Zero would not be a big risk to make.  They could even use the MK engine.

What sequels have they made to games that sold less than 650k and 160k?

When I ask people what makes F-Zero so different from Mario Kart they say the speed. Well, now you got it.


Which is also sad. Cos now I probbably will not get an F Zero on my 3DS :(



Samus Aran on 02 April 2015
WhiteEaglePL said:
Samus Aran said:

You didn't ask for Metroid plus online, you asked for Metroid to be like Halo.

Metroid will never sell millions because it's not a mainstream game and online won't change that (look at Prime Hunters).

Kid Icarus Uprising didn't do anything right. They turned a Metroidvania game into a weird Japanese on-rails shooter with awkward controls.

Blame that for no C Stick in normal 3DS. Uprising rebooted the series after 25 years. That's a huge deal and if it was just a lame 2D thing like the nes/gb games then it would scream more like eshop than a 2012 game.

I recently finished 3D Classics Kid Icarus for the second time, and I must admit the only metroidvania stuff are the dungeons which are pretty repettitive as the moment you see certain things you know your going in the right direction. It was a bad metroidvania in that sense imo, but the highlight of the "just good" game were the boss battles and challenging platforming levels.

They designed the game while knowing that. I'd much rather see Kid Icarus turned into a Metroid/GoW combo game. Throw all the weird Japanese stuff out and focus on Greek mythology.



WhiteEaglePL on 02 April 2015
Samus Aran said:
WhiteEaglePL said:

Blame that for no C Stick in normal 3DS. Uprising rebooted the series after 25 years. That's a huge deal and if it was just a lame 2D thing like the nes/gb games then it would scream more like eshop than a 2012 game.

I recently finished 3D Classics Kid Icarus for the second time, and I must admit the only metroidvania stuff are the dungeons which are pretty repettitive as the moment you see certain things you know your going in the right direction. It was a bad metroidvania in that sense imo, but the highlight of the "just good" game were the boss battles and challenging platforming levels.

They designed the game while knowing that. I'd much rather see Kid Icarus turned into a Metroid/GoW combo game. Throw all the weird Japanese stuff out and focus on Greek mythology.

There's a lot of greek stuff in Uprising anyway, including more Gods and monsters. But too Greek will spoil the fun in the awesome world Uprising created.

Anime is staying for a while, because it's in Smash too.  I like wierd Japanese stuff even the SMG x FE overload so imo I like it.