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Obvious as hell, but some don't want to see it.

It all comes down to unreliable 3rd parties & software development. Nintendo is exhausted.,they desperately want to move toward NX Fusion, ASAP, which will be a singular, smooth, & scalable process for them. More evidence in their eshop, games are listed whether its 3ds or Wii U... they are itching to move for 1 rich &, powerful platform, accessible via a family of products.

Lastly, even though I have a 2DS, I find myself saying damn, I wish I could play ______ on my Wii U game pad, or tv. Ninty knows this, and will leave that choice up to us moving forward.



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"oh Reginald... I disagree"



Mummelmann said:
Materia-Blade said:
 

"I'm saying that Nintendo are not a factor in the home console market; yes. That is a statement anyone in the world would be hard-pressed to counter right now, they're really not. It is not only interesting; it is also undeniable."

It's totally deniable because it's not true. Ignoring nintendo's presence on the market just baffles me.

"Are not a factor." vs "Ignoring Nintendo's presence." That's the only baffling part here, that and the fact that you always answer to only a couple of sentences and never, ever even once admit that someone of a different mind is ever right in any one thing, I have literally never seen that. I see valid points in other peoples arguments all the time because there usually are some, you just ignore actual points and arguments and play the semantics game or change the perimeters by setting up strawmen and other wasteful tactics, not to mention that you almost never construct any actual arguments of your own, you just say "You're wrong". This reply is no different in that sense.
If one never sees reason in anything others say; that means one is arguing simply for the sake of arguing and then it's not a discussion.
That makes it sort of hopeless to discuss things with you.

It is remarkably similar to another user I used to try to discuss with.

your post was way too long to talk about everything, I rebuted the main point. saying that nintendo is not a factor is absurd. it's one of the big three, and the most unique. selling less than the competition =/= not being a factor, it's certainly a huge factor for wii u owners.



well hope, Nintendo know what to do, it's getting ridiculous, i am planing to get Wii U this year to play Zelda U and X but i might considered again. I am waiting what is NX, when it will release and etc, before i am buying Wii U.



zorg1000 said:
zelmusario said:
Not the same situation. The Gamecube had a full-fledged Zelda title and Wii U doesn't. Not to mention that the lifecycle would be much shorter than any other Nintendo console, risking alienation from their customers.

All in all, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but it doesn't seem THAT obvious. Not at all. You are hereby demoted from Captain to Private Obvious.


Being shorter than previous generations doesn't really matter considering the last 3 Nintendo consoles have gotten horrible support after the 4th year. So why not just just off that final 5th year? As long as 2016 has a handful of Nintendo published titles than no reason why not to release a successor in holiday 2016.

I see what you're saying. Weren't Gamecube and Wii both still profitable in their 5th years? That probably would've been reason enough to extend their lifecycle. Wii U has been struggling from the start so a 4 year lifecycle probably makes more sense, despite the lack of precedent. I'm all for a new console (with the right specs and a reason to bring 3rd party support back) releasing holiday 2016, but I still would say there's a risk of alienating consumers with such a shorter lifespan. Either way, give us a few more big titles for Wii U (Animal Crossing, Fatal Frame V, Pokken Fighters, SMT x FE, etc.) and I'd be happy even without Zelda. 



It'll be awhile before I figure out how to do one of these. :P 

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Aye, I believe the Cap'n is probably right on this one. Zelda U for both WiiU and NX, me thinks.



se7en7thre3 said:
Obvious as hell, but some don't want to see it.

It all comes down to unreliable 3rd parties & software development. Nintendo is exhausted.,they desperately want to move toward NX Fusion, ASAP, which will be a singular, smooth, & scalable process for them. More evidence in their eshop, games are listed whether its 3ds or Wii U... they are itching to move for 1 rich &, powerful platform, accessible via a family of products.

Lastly, even though I have a 2DS, I find myself saying damn, I wish I could play ______ on my Wii U game pad, or tv. Ninty knows this, and will leave that choice up to us moving forward.


I really can't wait for Nintendo to fully unify their hardware lines.

NX Portable-$199.99, between Xbox 360 & Wii U in terms of specs, able to handle Wii U level visuals/ports on a 5" screen at 540p.

NX Console-$199.99, somewhere between Wii U & Xbox One in terms of specs, plays all the same games as the Portable at 1080p.

If u prefer playing on handhelds, get the handheld. If u prefer playing on consoles, get the console. If u prefer certain games on handhelds and prefer certain games on consoles, get both.

No more droughts from Nintendo now that all development is going to a single unified ecosystem. Nintendo has historically published about 24 titles per year or roughly 2 per month, but the problem is that it's split up between 2 devices in normal years and up to 4 devices in transition years like 2012 which had DS & Wii still getting a little support, Wii U launching, and 3DS trying to build traction.

If Nintendo can unify their devices than they can avoid these types of situations by only supporting 1 central platform during normal years and possibly 2 during transition years. They might even be able to avoid rough transitions by adopting a similar approach to phones/tablets where they have smaller incremental upgrades. Maybe instead of releasing brand new hardware every 5 years or so, we see smaller upgrades every 2-3 years.

Perhaps we see something like the NX devices I described above release in 2016. Then in 2019 they each get moderate power boosts, the handheld now plays games at 1080p and the console in 4k but most games are still playable on the earlier devices. Then in 2022 they get another power boost, now the handheld plays games in 4k and the console in 8k, the 2016 versions of hardware may not be able to handle new games but the 2019 models can. Just an idea.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

So basically: one game being delayed means there's gonna be a new console next year. That logic is why I can't bear to read your posts, Soundwave.



Yeah that's pretty much the case. It's Twilight Princess all over again, only this time it won't be a cross-generational title.

We got a reveal trailer for the new "adult" Link Zelda title at E3 2004 that got everyone hyped and set to be released in 2005, then nothing new on the game until E3 2005 when Nintendo teased their next system, code named Revolution, and were ambiguous when they said Zelda would be appearing on it, not saying specifically if it was the same Zelda already revealed for the GC. Then by E3 2006 they revealed they had indeed been working on 2 versions of the game for the GC and the Wii, which launched in November 2016.

Now look at the stuff that has recently transpired... at E3 2014 Nintendo shows off a reveal trailer for the next Zelda that gets everyone hyped. Less than a year later and Nintendo has already admitted the existence of their next console and revealed the code name to be NX, while confirming that not only has Zelda Wii U been delayed but it will not even make an appearance at this year's E3 due to some serious retooling of the game's core design. All signs point to a holiday 2016 release alongside their next console.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Zelda NX is what we should be calling it now.



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