Yeah like you could have a knife as an ornament, a tool or a weapon. The definition of an object can change by it's current use.
| Barkley said: One of the definitions for the word "Toy" given by the oxford dictionary. It's a weird one, you can refer to things as a Toy but that doesn't necessarily mean that the object itself is a toy. The word really denotes what you use it for. A child can take a stick and use it as a toy, that doesn't mean it is a toy. A console can be a toy, I wouldn't say that's the best word to describe it though. |
This. I can get on board with this. Something can be used as a toy but not be a toy.
How can you make a distinction between being used as a toy and being a toy? What is the property that makes something truly a toy? It is quite obvious that usage determines existence for this word.
| sc94597 said: The phone is what is being used to play angry birds. If there is no phone/computing device you can't play angry birds. I can have a party without any man-made structure. I can have a party in a field, for example. |
If you're gonna stretch phone to include "computing device" (which can be many things not a phone) to help your argument, then I'm changing "house" to "property". Then my argument still applies haha
| S.T.A.G.E. said: If you believe its a toy then maybe its a toy to you. In truth, videogames used to have the stigma of being considered toys because companies like Nintendo and Sega marketed them to kids and teenagers. When Sony came they changed videogames from something for kids and teens to adults. Today consoles are essentially multimedia computers today. Thats why Sony expanded the industry beyond the path Nintendo set it upon. |
Ipads are toys. Monster trucks and Ferraris are toys. Big flat screen TVs are toys.
Toys for adults. There is nothing childish about having fun with toys.
| BMaker11 said: They are literally computers. Specialized for gaming. Is a gaming PC a toy? "But, a gaming PC is still a PC. You can web browse, photoshop, write word documents, etc" And on gaming consoles, you can develop games (with an SDK), launch apps, and cure cancer (PS3 Folding@Home). I'm not trying to get up in arms, per se, about it being called a "toy". But if gaming consoles are toys then my iPhone is a toy. |
You can use Lego to prototype important things. So Lego isn't a toy?
onionberry said:
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Hmm....idk, I could think of some other pretty fun toys
| Barkley said: One of the definitions for the word "Toy" given by the oxford dictionary. It's a weird one, you can refer to things as a Toy but that doesn't necessarily mean that the object itself is a toy. The word really denotes what you use it for. A child can take a stick and use it as a toy, that doesn't mean it is a toy. A console can be a toy, I wouldn't say that's the best word to describe it though. |
That's an interesting view. Basically how you use it defines it as a toy, not what it is. This is something I can agree with.
Mnementh said:
You can use Lego to prototype important things. So Lego isn't a toy? |
From a "primary function" argument, yes, it is a toy. And I would argue in favor of it. Just because you repurpose what the object does doesn't change what the object is. I can tie a free weight to my chest. Doesn't make it a bulletproof vest.
Gaming machines are multimedia devices. Just because you can be entertained by them doesn't make them toys. Just like how you could literally build a functional house out of Legos, but that doesn't make them not toys.
Game_God said:
Computers can be used as toys when you play videogames, but they are not toys! |
I was being sarcastic
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