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Scoobes on 22 February 2015
Angelus said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

There might be something to this, but I don't know. I am reading other peoples statements and they are saying the god in flemeths body is now in posession of the body of Solas.


If that is the case then that makes flemeth anything but dead considering her and Mythal had really become one the way I understood it. Though I imagine we'll be seeing some more of the old god personality emerge now that there's at least 2 god souls in the mix

Earlier in the game, Flemeth makes it clear to Morrigan that it has to be consensual for a spirit transfer to take place. I get the feeling the next game is going to be much bigger on the elven lore, and maybe the return of old gods (as Arch-Demons perhaps?).




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tokilamockingbrd on 22 February 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
I am convinced Flemeth took Solas. Remember all of that banter between her and Morrigan about how she could only take a willing host? Solas looked pretty willing. Dire Wolf+Flemeth = super boss


Yeah, a god had taken Flemeths body as a host. I remember that. She probably just let go of the body of Flemeth and took the body of Solas. What an interesting setup for the next game. Has me on edge. I was so pissed but also so eager for the next game.


either way, whether Solas took Flemeth or vice versa the next DA game will have an epic nemesis. I cant say I have ever seen that method used. A party member in an RPG who was really an ancient demi-god merges with another Mythical being that has been present in the entire series and is the future nemesis (or even better one of those grey charaters you dont know what their intentions are)



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S.T.A.G.E. on 22 February 2015
Angelus said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

There might be something to this, but I don't know. I am reading other peoples statements and they are saying the god in flemeths body is now in posession of the body of Solas.


If that is the case then that makes flemeth anything but dead considering her and Mythal had really become one the way I understood it. Though I imagine we'll be seeing some more of the old god personality emerge now that there's at least 2 god souls in the mix


Yeah, it seems something really big is about to happen. Solas somehow failed and must atone for his screw ups in the past. I just hope Flemeth doesn't break the seal and allow the gods to come back. Remember Corypheus never died, he was just sent into the fade and I believe the gods are there as well. All hell could break loose in the next game if the power falls into the wrong hands.



S.T.A.G.E. on 22 February 2015
Angelus said:
Let's not forget that according to the DA lore "Flemeth" has been around for ages, in this time there's no telling how many bodies Mythal/Flemeth have actually gone through and yet all throughout she has maintained the identity of Flemeth, so just because she's now in the body of Solas doesn't mean that's necessarily gonna change


Flemeth did look like she was aging quite a bit since Dragon Age 2. It was probably about time she let go of that body. Being in the body of an elf just makes more sense. You can live in it essentially for a long time without aging.

Angelus on 22 February 2015
Scoobes said:
Angelus said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

There might be something to this, but I don't know. I am reading other peoples statements and they are saying the god in flemeths body is now in posession of the body of Solas.


If that is the case then that makes flemeth anything but dead considering her and Mythal had really become one the way I understood it. Though I imagine we'll be seeing some more of the old god personality emerge now that there's at least 2 god souls in the mix

Earlier in the game, Flemeth makes it clear to Morrigan that it has to be consensual for a spirit transfer to take place. I get the feeling the next game is going to be much bigger on the elven lore, and maybe the return of old gods (as Arch-Demons perhaps?).


Ya definitely. Already insanely hyped for the next game, can't wait to see what Bioware has in mind. Hopefully they'll release some awesome DLC or even an expansion for Inquisition. The fact that they haven't talked about any DLC plans at all yet gives me hope that they got something big in the works



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S.T.A.G.E. on 22 February 2015
Angelus said:
Scoobes said:

Earlier in the game, Flemeth makes it clear to Morrigan that it has to be consensual for a spirit transfer to take place. I get the feeling the next game is going to be much bigger on the elven lore, and maybe the return of old gods (as Arch-Demons perhaps?).


Ya definitely. Already insanely hyped for the next game, can't wait to see what Bioware has in mind. Hopefully they'll release some awesome DLC or even an expansion for Inquisition. The fact that they haven't talked about any DLC plans at all yet gives me hope that they got something big in the works


For some odd reason I am satisfied with the game, but DLC would be welcome. Thats how we found out about Corphyeus. Its amazing how many people never knew about Corypheus because they didn't buy the DLC though. Key characters should be added to the game and not left out. The Sebastien and female elf story DLC was fine though.



sc94597 on 22 February 2015

Also, many times Solas hinted that the Elven gods were just powerful, but ordinary elves, not truly gods as in different beings from elves. I do think the Old Gods and the Elven pantheon are somehow connected. Possibly The Old Gods are The Forgotten Ones, and Fen'Harel being able to pass between both sides of the Elven pantheon might have something to do with the blackening of the Golden City (which Cory said was already black when the magisters got there.)



Darc Requiem on 22 February 2015
Scoobes said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Scoobes said:
You realise Solas isn't just a mage or an elf?

He's something far more powerful. He's effectively an elven god.


I understand, but thats why I am so surprised at how much power he hid from everyone. He played the role of a cub when in truth he was a freaking lion. I am just saying that even though he turned out to be more than a mage he posed as one no different than Anders in the last game who went rogue. Next game I am going to be very, very cautious of mages all the way from Tevinter to the newly established college. The only mages I might give the benefit of the doubt to are circle mages and even then i will still be on my toes about how I deal with them.

The difference is that Anders went mad due to the circumstances in Kirkwall. He never hid how he felt and I didn't think it was a big shock when he did what he did (maybe the scale).

Solas was never mad. He always had an ulterior motive and to be honest, I don't think it was neccessarily all bad. There are actually a lot of hints to Solas being far more than he lets on. He's always quite distant, always seems to be sad or regretting something in the past that he keeps well hidden and if you put him in your party with Cole, you often get a lot of hints that there is something major in Solas' past.

Whilst he's hidden a lot from the player, I don't think that it's for nefarious purposes. Spoiler/theory alert:

If you read up on the lore it's apparent that the Dread Wolf/Solas sealed the other elven gods away, with the exception of Mythal/Flemeth. This then lead to a weakened elven race which was ripe for Tevinter to come in and enslave them. This in turn has lead to the current state of elves being perceived as second class citizens and forced into alienages. I think Solas/Dread Wolf sealed the other gods away for good reason. The elves were warring with each other at this point (at least from what I can remember). But his actions had unforseen circumstances that he's now trying to put right.

Strangely, the lore also states that the Dread Wolf betrayed Mythal, yet in the ending they seem to be old friends. Earlier in the game, Flemeth also states to Morrigan that spirit/body transfer can only occur when both parties are willing participants, so the question remains, what has happened between Solas and Flemeth?

Either way, I think it's a great twist and the general story/lore of Dragon Age has really been expanded upon since the generic fantasy storyline depicted in Origins. I can't wait to see how this will be expanded upon.


In DAI, it's stated by Solas and Abelas that the Dalish got a lot of the lore wrong. Abelas tells you that Tevinter didn't destroy Arlathan. The "Sentinel Elves" are the Elves old, they know what happened. The Dalish have gotten a lot of the lore wrong. The Vallasin that they take pride in, was actually the mark given to slaves by the Ancient Elves. The elves destroyed themselves. It's heavily implied that the Elven Gods were warring amongst themselves and that Solas sealed them away to protect his people from the fallout. It's also implied, by Corypheus, that the Maker was already gone and the Golden City was already corrupted when the Magisters physically breached the Fade. They essentially released the corruption that had been sealed away. The Maker and Elven Gods likely have some sort of connection. 



kinisking on 22 February 2015

I never did like solas. Preferred dorian by fsr



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Wonktonodi on 22 February 2015

Having played as mages in all Dragon age games I disapprove. Also my story with solas was different. He just left, I didn't get more than that since flemeth got the old gods soul from morigans son.