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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Peter Molyneux: “I haven’t got a reputation in this industry any more”

VitroBahllee on 18 February 2015
JWeinCom said:
*Sigh* People complain frequently about how the gaming media is paid off and frequently panders to developers. Then, when someone takes a major industry figure to task for making promises (and accepting money) for things they can't deliver, people say that he's being too mean?

Crazy! Almost like people want journalists to be ethical IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

"He's not a bad guy: he doesn't kill little kids, just grandmas."

People complain about the gaming media when they SUCK which is almost all the time.



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Mr_No on 18 February 2015

I feel a bit sad for Peter, but I believe he had it coming for a while. The interviewer didn't seem too professional, but he did went straight for the point. Interview overall seemed a bit cringeworthy and poor.



DerpSandwich on 18 February 2015

This is not journalism. It's just not. I don't care what you think about the guy, you don't sit there spitting in his face and call it journalism.



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badgenome on 18 February 2015
nuckles87 said:

"We could" is not a promise. It's merely stating that it's a possibility. Had he said, "we WILL", than that quote would mean something.

It still means something. I get that it wasn't exactly a promise, but it's a perfect example of how Peter always seems to be engaging in a public brainstorming session (I think this is the kindest possible interpretation of his behavior) when he's supposed to be speaking in an official capacity.



naruball on 18 February 2015
Teeqoz said:
naruball said:
What a horrendous interview. I'm surprised the "journalist" didn't pull a knife on him or something. There's aggressive and then there's that. There's no way I would have continued the interview had I been in Molyneux's shoes. I'm utterly disgusted.


With these questions I'm surprised Moluneux didn't pull a knife on the journalist...

 

Peter might have overpromised and underdelivered on a lot of occations, but this is just being a pure asshole against him. You can ask people out on mistakes without being a dick.


I'm sure child molesters and murderers are treated with more respect from interviewers than Molyneux did, so yeah, you're right, he should be glad he made it out alive.

I also think he was a point. There's a difference between lying and what he does. If he says, "when the winner/backer came I spent hours talking to him, I showed him this and that, we went bowling" etc, then yeah that's a lie. But overpromising and underdelivering is not the same as lying. I work in Academia and I've gotten several extensions for my PhD. Every time I ask for a two month extension I truly believe that that's the time that I actually need. And then I end up getting another one. I've spoken to several lecturers in my department and they all tell me the same thing. They tell the publishers they will be done by  x time and end up needing another year or more. They're not consiously lying, they're underestimating the time they need to finish something. Also, telling a publisher, "well, give me 5 years just to be sure" won't get you any deal. You have to promise what seems to you doable. 

Also, he has a point about the making of book. How exactly are they supposed to give that to backers if they haven't even finished making the game?



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S.T.A.G.E. on 18 February 2015
Zanten said:
Terrible interviewer. And I say this as someone who HATES the sort of person Molyneux is and who just wishes he'd go back to a big publisher and never, ever try crowdfunding anything he makes ever again, while also never talking to the press while he's at it. I also say it as someone who firmly believes that anytime Molyneux hypes up a new game (like the one he is already talking about before Godus' corpse has cooled) every media outlet on the planet should include, with their report on the new game, a detailed list on Molyneux's many, many, many broken assurances and starry-eyed fictitious shortcomings, just to make sure that even the most fresh-faced consumer is well aware how full of nonsense the man is. Heck, I even say it as someone who'd WANT to have seen Molyneux get finally called on his bull and held accountable to the actions he always shrugs off with 'Yup, totally my fault, BUT MY NEXT GAME WILL BE AWESOMESAUCE!'

So why do I disapprove of the interviewer? Because it IS too aggressive. I'm not saying 'Poor Peter,' I'm saying 'Jesus, Maintain Control Of The Narrative, Walker!' As frustrating as Molyneux's evasions, half-truths and either-foolishly-or-conveniently-terrible-memory was, you need to highlight his lies, his inconsistencies, his foolish qualities, present them in such a way that the reader cannot fail to miss them, and then move on. Do not try to convince the MAN you are interviewing that they exist, especially when he is so notoriously hard to pin down on anything as Molyneux. This isn't about Molyneux, as unfortunately no legal action can be taken for his particular brand of Snake-Oil-ness, but instead about creating a concise and rock solid piece of journalism that, for a new generation of readers, will introduce them to 'Why You Should Not Trust Peter Molyneux,' and for an older generation of readers who already kiiiind of know he schtick, hammer home just how extensive it is. Sure, Molyneux can choose to defend himself if he so chooses, but he should be the one trying to lay siege to Walker's castle, as it were, not the other way around, and simply because Molyneux's attempts to justify his actions would only serve to highlight just how unjustifiable they all are.

Heck, I've known Molyneux was like this for years, but it wasn't until I saw the most recent Jimquisition on the subject, (basically, pointing out the cycle of Molyneux hyping up his new game while trashing the old one, great episode, unforgiving tone but NOT nearly as combative as this article's interviewer,) I didn't know just how incredibly CONSISTENT and predictable it was. o_O The man has basically gotten away with pulling the exact same trick over and over and over and over, and this is the first time to memory anyone's really pointed it out to him.

Molyneux knew where he was headed  since Fable 2. The promises that came with that franchise and everything else sent his career down. After every game he said he wasnt satisfied and made the next worse than the last. After taking peoples money and delivering a product sub par to what he sold it as he took peoples actual money to make a game he knew he couldn't finish on time. He deserves to be grilled and I am glad hes no long doing interviews. Before Molyneux was exclusively developing for the Xbox he was actually a celebrated developer. Perhaps he should've gone back to the mentality he had during those days and brought it into the future. 



hunter_alien on 18 February 2015
kitler53 said:
peter still has a massive rep in the industry,.. as a pathological liar.


not sure why everyone is hating on the interview. it is refreshing to see an interview that actually asked the questions everyone is really thinking.


It asked it in a terrible way IMO. This is not a CNN interview with an african warlord, this is a gaming interview with a developer.

I am speechelss. The questions are all valid, I agree on that part, but it was taken on an absolutly insulting way, and I do hope that I wont have to ever stomach trough such an "investigating" interview ever again.

PM is a dreamer, and he overpromised one every single product he delievered in the last decade, but that doesnt changes the fact that all in all he actually managed to create quality titles. And for the quickstarter part: its a risk, and IMO everyone who pitches in knows this, and should support a project being prepared that parts or even all of theproject might not come to fruition.

RPS was always on my craplist when it comes to gaming, but they somehow managedto sink evn lower with this interview...



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naruball on 18 February 2015
RolStoppable said:
naruball said:
What a horrendous interview. I'm surprised the "journalist" didn't pull a knife on him or something. There's aggressive and then there's that. There's no way I would have continued the interview had I been in Molyneux's shoes. I'm utterly disgusted.

Yeah, but you are a normal person. Molyneux, on the other hand, lives for the spotlight. He could have put an end to the phone interview at any time. Heck, he could have never accepted it in the first place after he said that he is done with the press. He could have summed up the state of Godus and everything around it by putting an elaborate post on his company's website; laying out the current facts, apologizing for the shortcomings, the plans going forward (including handing over the reigns for PR work to someone else). But instead he gave yet another interview because he simply cannot restrain himself.

Don't get me wrong. I completely agree with you. That's what he should have done. Don't know if he was trying to fix things or was worried about a new headline "Molyneux is called a liar, leaves interview". But at any rate, two wrongs don't make one right. Yes, he has made mistakes and has lost people's respect in him, but the problem I have is with the reviewer. Whatever Molyneux has done, doens't give the interviewer the right to treat him like garbage. 



Insidb on 18 February 2015
celador said:

Peter Molyneux's reputation is pretty much tarnished. He has over-promised and under-delivered on many occasions.

The fact that you can read the interview and feel bad for him is a real testament to the complete and utter twats at RPS. Biggest bunch of white-knighting, SJW shits I have ever seen. Like to see how they would interview Sarkeesian, if they could get their tongue out of her ass long enough to ask any questions that is.

Man, I hate that site. Fucking pretentious tossers as well. What possessed Molyneux to do an interview with them I don't know

They unprofessionally tried to crucify him for unprofessionalism.

Fight fire with fire?



fatslob-:O on 18 February 2015

The interviewer was pretty much insolent but I guess it's well deserved on Molyneux's part going by his history ...