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The Fury said:
It's weird that gaming is seemingly different to any other entertainment medium on youtube, why is it okay for people to make money of someone elses work when it comes to games but nothing else? Because they put effort in to play and upload it?

I wonder if there would be as big of an issue if I started reading well known novels on youtube, word for word, literally from the book, with adverts and then not given a single penny to the writer.

Jim Sterling said they are PewDiePie's subscribers but they are not his games.

@ bolded

Is that a serious question? Think about it for a bit. The hint is in the word "play".



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For me it'll mean less Nintendo related videos and I like Nintendo related videos so it's bad :(



Slarvax said:
last92 said:


I disagree. I watch Angry Joe's videos because I like that youtuber, he's a funny guy and I respect his opinion and unbiasedness. That's the whole point, though, isn't it? Your definition of "original contribution" may be different from mine...maybe I think that what these youtubers say or do during the videos is "original contribution". After all, if some youtubers have a lot of subscriptions, that must mean that their contribution is somehow relevant...either way every channel should have roughly the same amount of subscriptions.

So you'd watch AngryJoe giving his opinion on the Australian Open final?

That's like asking if a Yankees fan would still go to their games if they suddenly becaue a soccer team or asking a fan of Stephen King if he'd enjoy Stephen King's cooking. Obviously whether or not you like someone's work depends heavily on if you're interested in the subject matter, but that doesn't mean you like it only for the subject matter.



Scoobes said:
The Fury said:
It's weird that gaming is seemingly different to any other entertainment medium on youtube, why is it okay for people to make money of someone elses work when it comes to games but nothing else? Because they put effort in to play and upload it?

I wonder if there would be as big of an issue if I started reading well known novels on youtube, word for word, literally from the book, with adverts and then not given a single penny to the writer.

Jim Sterling said they are PewDiePie's subscribers but they are not his games.

@ bolded

Is that a serious question? Think about it for a bit. The hint is in the word "play".

Yes, it is serious. The irony is that you use the word play. To Play: engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose (taken from google), weird that money is not mentioned here. Wait, are you talking the other version? You know to play something.

But replace the word play for read and there is no difference. I read comics for enjoyment, I play games for enjoyment. Yet if I were to upload the latest issue of Uncanny X-men to youtube page by page while reading it out loud, it would get taken off if I tried to claim money off it (probably get taken off if i didn't claim money as well). It's still me making money off someone else's work.



Hmm, pie.

Hiku said:

I've randomly looked up lets plays tons of times, from youtubers I knew nothing about.

And I've also been turtned off from buying a game I initially planned to buy after watching it being played.

Both personality and the games being played role in viewership size. I've discovered dozens of games that I never knew about because the Game Grumps played them at some point, and I've also discovered a number of the Youtube channels that I'm subscribed to because they made a video about a game I like, which has in turn led me to discover more games I never knew about through those channels.

Blame the developers of those games for not making them better instead of blaming the gameplay for showing you that the games are bad.



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spemanig said:
I think people are seriously overestimating how much Nintendo "needs" Youtubers.


Judging by WiiU sales,i think they really need someone like PewDiePie to promote the WiiU for the legion of 14yo full hormonal girls who watch his videos.



The Fury said:
Scoobes said:
The Fury said:
It's weird that gaming is seemingly different to any other entertainment medium on youtube, why is it okay for people to make money of someone elses work when it comes to games but nothing else? Because they put effort in to play and upload it?

I wonder if there would be as big of an issue if I started reading well known novels on youtube, word for word, literally from the book, with adverts and then not given a single penny to the writer.

Jim Sterling said they are PewDiePie's subscribers but they are not his games.

@ bolded

Is that a serious question? Think about it for a bit. The hint is in the word "play".

Yes, it is serious. The irony is that you use the word play. To Play: engage in activity for enjoyment and recreation rather than a serious or practical purpose (taken from google), weird that money is not mentioned here. Wait, are you talking the other version? You know to play something.

But replace the word play for read and there is no difference. I read comics for enjoyment, I play games for enjoyment. Yet if I were to upload the latest issue of Uncanny X-men to youtube page by page while reading it out loud, it would get taken off if I tried to claim money off it (probably get taken off if i didn't claim money as well). It's still me making money off someone else's work.

A comic is a purely linear thing. A large proportion of games give different experiences for each individual that plays. Look at the videos of Minecraft; it's astounding what people can do and it's something that I would never be able to do or experience if not for the videos uploaded on youtube. 

Video games are an interactive medium. Even most linear games give different events for the same segment. Take Uncharted for instance. The AI may respond differently in the level, maybe you miss shooting an environmental weapon in one playthrough but not another or you may experience funny bugs in just one of multiple playthroughs.

The events of the comic will never change. The artwork will never change. A persons' experience with a comic is tied purely to the passive reading/telling of it. A video games' experience is tied to the direct interaction with it. A video in this context serves as passive marketing. It effectively functions as a modern "word of mouth" effect. You see people having fun actively interacting with a game, you then want a go out and purchase said game.



Does anybody actually expect any better from Nintendo these days?? I mean I could almost swear the calendars at Nintendo HQ is Japan are from 2005 and not 2015. From their BS policies, online account system thats as good as the original Xbox at best, shitty hardware etc. etc.
All they are good for is developing games, the rest of the company needs a complete overhaul. I seriously dont understand how anyone can defend what they have been doing these last 4 years.



Of course Youtubers are going to be against it. It is in the Youtubers' best interest to have unlimited access to whatever content they want free of charge. And Nintendo is not able to block criticism completely. If you want to complain about Nintendo, you're able to do so freely. Just do so without showing video of Nintendo's IP.

Ultimately it's Nintendo's right to decide what people can do with their content. You can argue that this program is not smart, but it's hard to argue it is somehow morally wrong.



Captain_Yuri said:
vivster said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Would you rather have them monetize all ads and not give the youtubers a penny like how they are doing before this program?

I would rather have them do what most other publishers are doing. Embracing youtube instead of treating it like their enemy.

Well, it is their IP and they do have every right to do so but while granted that they aren't embracing "youtube," at least it is a step in the right direction cause from 0%, its now 60% so 40% more to go

At the expense of the youtuber's integrity. If what Jim and boogie are saying is true and I trust them both, the control of the youtuber's content (the Nintendo content only) is a load of bullshit. Give me liberty or givee death. If it was any other company, there would be riots. This is not a step in the direction, not in the least. Nintendo, who suffers the most from bad or lack of marketing and exposure, is essentially shooting themselves in the foot.



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