Forums - Sales Discussion - The WiiU hasnt spawned one successful new IP

bananaking21 said:
for those that mentioned Watch dogs and shovel night, i addressed those in the edit in the OP. i dont mind being wrong, though i feel i still have a point.

The WiiU has many problems. High quality IPs isn't one of them. If Ninty had gone with more new IPs instead of DK, MK8, and Smash, we'd all wonder aloud what the hell they were thinking.

If your point is that WiiU doesn't have 3rd party support, that's a dead horse. Kind of like how PS4 and X1 haven't spawned a single original 90+ metacritic ranked game in their life to date. 

Or are you telling us that if Nintendo were to introduce a really good, genuinely new IP on WiiU it'd make a substantial difference? Do you believe that?



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If Destiny counts as a new IP then I don't see how Captain Toad doesn't.



Still no number crunching in this thread about "financial success".



gatito said:
If Destiny counts as a new IP then I don't see how Captain Toad doesn't.

Because it didn't sell a bajillion copies which it would seem bananaking equates to financial success.



Game_God said:
spemanig said:

Lego City is just a "GTA" spin off of the Lego games while Nintendo Land is a spin off colaboration game, much like Smash.

Watch Dogs is a GTA clone,  Destiny is a Halo "spin-off", Titanfall is a COD with robots wanabee, Driveclub is an upgraded Motorstorm and The Evil Within is Resident Evil bastard child.

New IP/name =/= new original game!

Funny how Nintendo always breaking the mold with its series is "rehashing" & others always making the same game but with new name, prettier graphics & modest changes are "making new software".

I find it appaling when people won't go beyond the envelope & fall for cheap marketing tricks!

Thanks for replying for me, perfect post. Was busy doing work



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Nem said:
iTechHeads said:

Of course he is. How else would he do it? LMFAO

Would a small pizza business be considered successful if it made 500 people happy over 5 years but drained the owners bank account and left him homeless?

 

 

Hmm... you should LMFAO, because he didnt give us any kind of metric to measure that, nor does he have the info for it.

Therefore... ??? Great post?

He didn't need to as its pretty much common sense.

Success is measured by sales.

The more sales, the more successful. It is that simple.



KLAMarine said:
gatito said:
If Destiny counts as a new IP then I don't see how Captain Toad doesn't.

Because it didn't sell a bajillion copies which it would seem bananaking equates to financial success.

Wasmt Captain Toad a financial success? It sold over 400k in japan/NoA, will keep on selling with Europe+Legs and its a game that was practically not that much too make.



Faust said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Faust said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Watch Dogs, Destiny, Titanfall, Driveclub and The Evil Within are all mostly letdowns. Off all 5, Destiny and Titanfall have most potential to become something bigger and better. Even though Watch Dogs, Driveclub and The Evil Within sold well, they are not really good games, so sale nmbers be damned, they're not succesful new IP's (except for the 2 I mentioned). That and Watch Dogs is also on the Wii U, but it doesn't sell wel, which is in my eyes a good sign of the Wii U userbase.


Can you explain why is this a good sign?

I consider myself a core gamer, I have no time for mediocraty or laziness on part of the developer. It shows the Wii U userbase doesn't want Ubisoft's turds,. Bring something good to the table like AC IV, then we'll talk. Sometimes, a game not selling wel is a good sign.


SO, what about games like sonic boom? 3 times of watchdogs did, is that game that awesome? ;)

Sonic Boom should by all rights be a total failure. But... Thanks to the cartoon probably, it wasn't... But I don't think most Sonic Boom buyers were the core Nintendo fanbase, they were probably children or angry Sonic fans who bought the game anyway.



I feel like splatoon will be succesfull



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

KLAMarine said:
gatito said:
If Destiny counts as a new IP then I don't see how Captain Toad doesn't.

Because it didn't sell a bajillion copies which it would seem bananaking, investors and all gaming companies equates to financial success.

Fixed.