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Aeolus451 on 15 January 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
Aeolus451 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Aeolus451 said:

But it's concept is mainly from infamous. A guy gets powers and uses them however the player wants in a city/sandbox open world. It's Microsoft's counter to infamous. Nothing wrong with that being the case. It will probably remain exclusive to MS. 

Microsoft had that same concept and setting in Crackdown two years before Infamous came out. I guess this makes Infamous Sony's answer to Crackdown?


Crackdown? I don't know it. I looked it up on here and on youtube. It's more of straight up 3rd person shooter than a third person action game about a guy with powers. It's gunplay, targetting and overall look is more similar to prototype. Infamous has nothing really in common with it except there were powers and being set in a open world sandbox. Everything else is different. Sony didn't really need a answer to that series. It's sales weren't that good.

There's not much similar between Sunset and Infamous either, especially gameplay wise. Even with a similar setting and genre, the gameplay is radically different.

And I don't think Microsoft really needs an answer for Infamous, either. There are loads of good open world games on the market.



Hmm. At this point, MS needs an answer to any of sony's 1st party games and franchises. It didn't really have one for infamous. There's plenty of differences between those two games but there's enough similarities to compare them fairly and say that SO is MS's answer to infamous. There's a lot of people all over the net saying that SO is a copy of infamous. There's definitely a consensus forming on it.

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theprof00 on 15 January 2015
kinisking said:
theprof00 said:

I agree. SO could eventually be a bigger franchise someday. It's a spiritual successor to ratchet and clank imo, and really could have much better sales on a console with a fanbase who actually like Ratchet and Clank. This could have been a much better seller. It's like ff13 between the 360 and ps3. Like, why would you put ff13 on a console that doesn't have a fanbase for that genre? All you really did was sell to multiple console owners and people who would have bought a ps3. On top of which, it was a mediocre game, which just acts as a bad first impression for new players.

I really hope they made money on it, and I believe SO should come to PS, if Insomniac has any say about it. Hell, they should re-release it for ps4 as soon as they possibly can.

EDIT: Looks like I responded more to the second part of your post than the first. Locking this game up should be a no-brainer, but the IP itself needs some work if Insomniac ever wants it to be a great seller. Because it doesn't have the traditional ps fanbase to turn to for easy sales, they have to make their game that much better quality if they want to improve.

I would say the game though is much more similar to Dead Rising on the 360, though. Initially exclusive, then a second entry port, then exclusive again, with much more similar sales than Gears.

Fun fact: I just typed in Dead Rising into the database search engine and the first result was "gears of war". Weird.

*rolls eyes * FF 13 is an rpg. Do you know how much skyrim(another rpg) sold on 360? Tons. Theyres tons I successful rpg's on 360. Also if we're talking about jrpgs then 360 has a fan base too. If at least one copy of ff13 got sold on 360 that means theyres a fan base for it.

Who are you satirically mocking when you're saying that last line? Was that mattrick?



LudicrousSpeed on 15 January 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Hmm. At this point, MS needs an answer to any of sony's 1st party games and franchises. It didn't really have one for infamous. There's plenty of differences between those two games but there's enough similarities to compare them fairly and say that SO is MS's answer to infamous. There's a lot of people all over the net saying that SO is a copy of infamous. There's definitely a consensus forming on it.

Again, Crackdown. It came before Infamous, and there is another one coming too.

And anyone saying Sunset is a "copy of Infamous" has not played either Sunset or Infamous, or maybe both. Sure, there might be a lot of people on the Internets who say that. Console enthusiasts say the darndest things. There are also a lot of people on the net who say Elvis lives on Quantark with the Nebrolite alien race and will one day return to enslave us all. Doesn't make it accurate or hold any weight.

There's no reason to say there are enough similarities between those two games but at the same time not enough between Infamous and Crackdown other than maybe it just destroys your entire argument that MS is somehow answering a franchise that by your own logic was just an answer to one of theirs that they already have a third iteration in the works for.

Open world games are popular. Insomniac routinely does good work. Sunset is a good game, and an exclusive. MS needs games, not answers to a franchise that isn't even among Sony's best or most popular. As Phil Spencer said, they want an answer to Uncharted. He never said that about specifically about Infamous, for good reason LOL. Feel free to quote and bump when he does.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 January 2015

Sunset Overdrive is no answer for Infamous and Infamous is no answer for Crackdown.



binary solo on 15 January 2015

I think Insomniac would rather pull a Mass Effect 2 with Sunset Overdrive.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 January 2015
binary solo said:
I think Insomniac would rather pull a Mass Effect 2 with Sunset Overdrive.


Get purchased by a high profile publisher and have break the exclusivity contract with Microsoft? :)



Aeolus451 on 15 January 2015
LudicrousSpeed said:
Aeolus451 said:
Hmm. At this point, MS needs an answer to any of sony's 1st party games and franchises. It didn't really have one for infamous. There's plenty of differences between those two games but there's enough similarities to compare them fairly and say that SO is MS's answer to infamous. There's a lot of people all over the net saying that SO is a copy of infamous. There's definitely a consensus forming on it.

Again, Crackdown. It came before Infamous, and there is another one coming too.

And anyone saying Sunset is a "copy of Infamous" has not played either Sunset or Infamous, or maybe both. Sure, there might be a lot of people on the Internets who say that. Console enthusiasts say the darndest things. There are also a lot of people on the net who say Elvis lives on Quantark with the Nebrolite alien race and will one day return to enslave us all. Doesn't make it accurate or hold any weight.

There's no reason to say there are enough similarities between those two games but at the same time not enough between Infamous and Crackdown other than maybe it just destroys your entire argument that MS is somehow answering a franchise that by your own logic was just an answer to one of theirs that they already have a third iteration in the works for.

Open world games are popular. Insomniac routinely does good work. Sunset is a good game, and an exclusive. MS needs games, not answers to a franchise that isn't even among Sony's best or most popular. As Phil Spencer said, they want an answer to Uncharted. He never said that about specifically about Infamous, for good reason LOL. Feel free to quote and bump when he does.



Second Son is ranked 12th out of 86 games on sales. Currently at a comfortable 2.17 mil sold. It may not be the best or the most popular but it sells pretty good as a series and it's exclusive. That's plenty of reason for MS wanting to bring a counter offering to it. I'm just gonna dismiss Crackdown's relevance in this. It's only similar in that the MC has powers, it's 3rd person and the game world is a open world sandbox. A lot of people within the gaming community is forming a consensus that SO is a copy of Infamous but enough was changed to consider them different. Personally, I wouldn't call it a copy but I'll say that SO was influenced greatly by infamous or the reason why MS decided that it would publish it was because they thought it be a good counter to infamous. Isn't it quite common among artists to be influenced by other artists and sometimes even outright copy each other. You can talk about Elvis and what the internet thinks of him all you want.

binary solo on 15 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
binary solo said:
I think Insomniac would rather pull a Mass Effect 2 with Sunset Overdrive.


Get purchased by a high profile publisher and have break the exclusivity contract with Microsoft? :)

Just the last part. The first part would be pulling a Bioware, not a Mass Effect 2. And of course I doubt Insomniac wants to touch EA with a barge pole, the shit they made Insomniac do to turn what could have been something like Sunset Overdrive into Fuse.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 15 January 2015
binary solo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Just the last part. The first part would be pulling a Bioware, not a Mass Effect 2. And of course I doubt Insomniac wants to touch EA with a barge pole, the shit they made Insomniac do to turn what could have been something like Sunset Overdrive into Fuse.


Well, hopefully Sony gets the second Sunset because they screwed the pooch with the first. You have to have an ego to demand the IP to every single AAA title that lands on your platform. Its time for Sony to stop having so much pride and realize who they are dealing with.



GTAexpert on 15 January 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
binary solo said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Just the last part. The first part would be pulling a Bioware, not a Mass Effect 2. And of course I doubt Insomniac wants to touch EA with a barge pole, the shit they made Insomniac do to turn what could have been something like Sunset Overdrive into Fuse.


Well, hopefully Sony gets the second Sunset because they screwed the pooch with the first. You have to have an ego to demand the IP to every single AAA title that lands on your platform. Its time for Sony to stop having so much pride and realize who they are dealing with.

I think Sony wants to own IP's which they publish because if it turns out to be huge the would like to keep the IP instead of paying royalty to its developer every time a new one is being made just to keep it exclusive. That also makes more sense for a company which doesn't have too much money right now.