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Who will hit 20m in the US first? PS4 Vs. XB1 Vs. 3DS

3DS 99 46.48%
 
PS4 96 45.07%
 
XB1 17 7.98%
 
Total:212

Gut says 3ds, even with a significant drop off in sales it could edge out the competition to 20 million. Then I'd say ps4, what momentum xbone had seems to be dwindling and now that its holiday sale is over and the price is back at $400 the ps4 may well pick up where it left off before November.



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PS4 unless MS suddenly decides to start $330 2 game bundles all year. PS4 will get a price cut this year most likely and then the slaughter will really begin if it's a significant one ($50 or $100 will be big)




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Seece said:
Normchacho said:
Seece said:

XB1 exclusive line up was stronger, but all year it was marred by being more expensive than PS4 or on par, with the baggage and negativity of the previous year. Also bar Titanfall, up until the fall they didn't really have that much system selling software.

I can't claim to know what Microsoft or Sony have planned, by MS's fall exclusive line up is looking stronger right now than Sony's, you can thank Halo alone for that. MS don't have much for Q1/Q2, PS4 has some great looking games but none of them are huge brands/franchises. MS will need to strike far earlier than November tho IMO.

To the bolded part: Isn't the first 9 ish months of 2015 going to be just as baren? Worse even, since it won't have a big game to bundle the crap out of? Also, what are the odds that Microsoft will have the value advantage that they had for the 2014 holidays? 

The reason I think the PS4 will carry the U.S. is that I see MS having a weaker first half of 2015 and Sony being more competitive in the second half.

All possibles, I agree. But I think it's just as likely ms will want to do something not to revert completely back to PS4 destroying them. (Price parity and the negative baggage will help). We don't know what MS have E3 onwards. They have a lot of games coming, more than last year anyhow, don't think they're all gonna be bunched up together again. Who will debut a slim this year? If either? Strong rumours for XB1 slim and I'm sure penty of PS4 ones will pop up again. Are Sony in a position to cut to $299? Regardless of cutting costs.

The Order is february, Bloodbourne is March. What else do they have (before I get into a discussion about their line up and the implication on sales) I want to be fully informed.

MLB 2015 is March aswell. Not much else have specific release dates yet, but some other 2015 PS4 exlusives (or atleast, "not on Xbox" exlcusives) include

Deep Down

No Man's Sky

Persona 5

Tearaway Unfolded

Rachet and Clank

Hellblade

Until Dawn

Uncharted 4

Like I said, those games mostly just have launch windows as of right now. But that's a pretty solid lineup and it's very, very early in the year and more games will certainly be announced.

On top of that, 3rd party games have usually done more for the PS4 so far than they have for the Xbox One.



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Normchacho said:
Seece said:

All possibles, I agree. But I think it's just as likely ms will want to do something not to revert completely back to PS4 destroying them. (Price parity and the negative baggage will help). We don't know what MS have E3 onwards. They have a lot of games coming, more than last year anyhow, don't think they're all gonna be bunched up together again. Who will debut a slim this year? If either? Strong rumours for XB1 slim and I'm sure penty of PS4 ones will pop up again. Are Sony in a position to cut to $299? Regardless of cutting costs.

The Order is february, Bloodbourne is March. What else do they have (before I get into a discussion about their line up and the implication on sales) I want to be fully informed.

MLB 2015 is March aswell. Not much else have specific release dates yet, but some other 2015 PS4 exlusives (or atleast, "not on Xbox" exlcusives) include

Deep Down

No Man's Sky

Persona 5

Tearaway Unfolded

Rachet and Clank

Hellblade

Until Dawn

Uncharted 4

Like I said, those games mostly just have launch windows as of right now. But that's a pretty solid lineup and it's very, very early in the year and more games will certainly be announced.

On top of that, 3rd party games have usually done more for the PS4 so far than they have for the Xbox One.

Bolded are beyond niche when it comes to moving systems, Uncharted is the holiday, Ratchet, Until Dawn and the rest as well no? In terms of quality (always yet to be seen for any game) it's pretty good, but we're talking moving systems here. I just don't see the likes of Persona being anymore than a blip on the radar when it comes to selling hardware in the US ....

MS need to announce more for the whole year for sure.

But so far it's that line up above Vs Tomb Raider, Halo 5, Forza, Fable Legends and Quantum Break for the holidays.

If we're talking popular indies as well, Inside is the follow up to Limbo.



 

Thread is about the US, so keep Worldwide sales discussion out of it. It is off topic and deflection, which is very likely to get you moderated from this point onwards.

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And on another note, if youre making lists of videogames then please keep those lists to actual, confirmed 2015 releases. Thanks.



                            

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The 3DS reaching 20 million is a little iffy. If Nintendo can play their cards right with  the launch of the new 3ds coupled with the momentum from Pokemon+smash, a better first half lineup than 2014 and a whatever NFC title they have, I think the 3DS can get there before the PS4 and Xbox one.



I'm gonna have to go with 3DS just because of its lead. As for PS4 and XB1, I think the PS4 will just edge the XB1.



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mii-gamer said:

The 3DS reaching 20 million is a little iffy. If Nintendo can play their cards right with  the launch of the new 3ds coupled with the momentum from Pokemon+smash, a better first half lineup than 2014 and a whatever NFC title they have, I think the 3DS can get there before the PS4 and Xbox one.


I m pretty sure that nintendo will lure or even force us to buy New3ds/xl!Many wii remakes will arrive on New 3ds/xl or even a major game would release just on New3ds/xl,like Pokemon Z!

Although,this would get many old 3ds owners angry I think,I give it a small chance to happen!:p Why I said''US''?Why I included myself?I have already bought New 3ds xl from my beloved country of yours!:P



tak13 said:
mii-gamer said:

The 3DS reaching 20 million is a little iffy. If Nintendo can play their cards right with  the launch of the new 3ds coupled with the momentum from Pokemon+smash, a better first half lineup than 2014 and a whatever NFC title they have, I think the 3DS can get there before the PS4 and Xbox one.


I m pretty sure that nintendo will lure or even force us to buy New3ds/xl!Many wii remakes will arrive on New 3ds/xl or even a major game would release just on New3ds/xl,like Pokemon Z!

Although,this would get many old 3ds owners angry I think,I give it a small chance to happen!:p Why I said''US''?Why included myself?I have already bought New 3ds xl from my beloved country of yours!:P


I reckon Nintendo has a card NFC game for the New 3DS, either for the western launch or holiday periods. That will probably a major system seller, in my view.



According to VGC, the 3DS sold ~2.7 Million units in the US in 2014. If we are to expect a hefty drop in 2015 I wouldnt be surprised to see that number drop to 2 Million or lower (It was 4 Million in 2013).

If we assume VGC numbers are correct and the 3DS will end 2014 at ~14.5 Million, I think it would be fair to assume a 2015 total of ~16.5-17 Million units. After this I could see pretty big drops as Nintendo get ready to announce the successor. Fair to assume it ends 2016 sitting at an absolute maximum of 18.5 Million units?

2017/2018 will see the promotion/release of the next Nintendo handheld and if the 3DS does leg it to 20 Million in the US, it will be in this time frame.
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Moving on to the PS4 and Xbox One, I think both platforms will break 20 Million in the US fairly easily. We know that the PS4 can sell really well throughout the Year and we know that the Xbox One is only a pricecut away from matching the competition.

I think its fair to say that both platforms will increase YoY in the US thanks to new, exciting software finally releasing. The PS4 has big exclusives all throughout the Year (Bloodborne, MLB, Order, Ratchet and most importantly Uncharted 4) while the Xbox One has some real big hitters too (Halo, Fable, Tomb Raider). When you add in 3rd party developers finally leaving Gen 7 hardware behind, you get a whole bunch of new gamers jumping on board.

Eventual pricecuts on top of huge, system selling software?

I think both PS4 and Xbox One will see 7 Million Years in the US for 2015, bringing both platforms to 13/14 Million units. Could probably expect very similar numbers in 2016 as the platforms completely break free from Gen 7, have competitive pricepoints and have vibrant exclusive libraries.

PS4 reaches first, Xbox One reaches second, 3DS reaches it last.