PS4 and Xbox One adjusted down

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Aura7541 on 07 January 2015

LordLichtenstein said:

Aura7541 said:

ethomaz said:

Yeap... sold to retail (shipped).

This is sold to consumers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146372291&postcount=2585

If true then VGC is overtracking by a good amount.

They believe it reached 10 million at end of December... sold to consumers.

So going by that, the PS4 is leading the X1 by about 8.5M or by a 1.85:1 ratio by the end of 2014. The PS4 might not have hit the 20M milestone, but it is still doing extraodinarily.

Xbox One - 10-10.5 million
Playstation 4 - 18.5 million

This is pretty much how I see it.

Yep, I definitely agree with that.

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ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

I would very much like to see/listen to that interview?

It was not a interview... sorry... it was a presentation.

https://bn1-word-view.officeapps.live.com/wv/mWord.aspx?ui=en%2DUS&rs=en%2DUS&WOPISrc=http%3A%2F%2Fbn1%2D15%2Dview%2Dwopi%2Ewopi%2Elive%2Enet%3A808%2Foh%2Fwopi%2Ffiles%2F%40%2FwFileId%3FwFileId%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%253A80%252Fglobal%252FInvestor%252FRenderingAssets%252FDownloads%252FFY15%252FMicrosoft%255F2014ASM%252Edocx&access_token=1&access_token_ttl=0&wdMobileHost=2

Slide 9.

Edit - To help the guys.

"Finally, our gaming business is thriving with the Xbox One hitting 10 million units sold. I am thrilled to welcome Mojang and Minecraft community to Microsoft. "

So 10 million sold to consumers by december 5th? Not to shabby ;).

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Puppyroach said:

ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

I would very much like to see/listen to that interview?

It was not a interview... sorry... it was a presentation.

https://bn1-word-view.officeapps.live.com/wv/mWord.aspx?ui=en%2DUS&rs=en%2DUS&WOPISrc=http%3A%2F%2Fbn1%2D15%2Dview%2Dwopi%2Ewopi%2Elive%2Enet%3A808%2Foh%2Fwopi%2Ffiles%2F%40%2FwFileId%3FwFileId%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%253A80%252Fglobal%252FInvestor%252FRenderingAssets%252FDownloads%252FFY15%252FMicrosoft%255F2014ASM%252Edocx&access_token=1&access_token_ttl=0&wdMobileHost=2

Slide 9.

Edit - To help the guys.

"Finally, our gaming business is thriving with the Xbox One hitting 10 million units sold. I am thrilled to welcome Mojang and Minecraft community to Microsoft. "

So 10 million sold to consumers by december 5th? Not to shabby ;).

No shipped.

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Kerotan on 07 January 2015

Well done ioi. Decent adjustments to both the x1 and the ps4. Probably more needed but a good start. Now only the wiiU remains. I think it's a bit overtracked

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Puppyroach on 07 January 2015

LordLichtenstein said:

Puppyroach said:

So 10 million sold to consumers by december 5th? Not to shabby ;).

No shipped.

Hey, I am just trying to be part of the ridicolous speculations as the rest of you! If you can assume it has shipped 10 million by december 5th based on a wordsheet and a NEOgaf post, then I can assume it is sold to consumer, not shipped :).

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kowenicki said:

Landguy said:
So, we are arguing about the number here on the chartz again. We all know they are guesstimates. So, whether they guesstimate them one way or the other is kind of irrelevant.

Just accept them for what they are...

I dont see anyone doing that?

Not that it matters, but you are clearly disagreeing(thus arguing) that the XB1 number should have not adjusted. Yet, you claim that no one is arguing about VGChartz #'s?

I am not agreeing with or disagreeing with your conclusions, but the humor in arguing is rather funny.

It is near the end of the end....

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Ninsect on 07 January 2015

ioi said:

SamuelRSmith said:
My guess is that he has formulas with various weights and inputs to pump out the numbers, which may work across platforms (ie, if he knows one region typically over-or-under represents a particular console, so if you have numbers for console X in a region, you can make some assumptions about console Y).

He (I guess) modified those weights to get the new PS4 number, and thus also got a new X1 number.

Gold star for this man. It's not that difficult.

Yeah that was obvious from some of your past posts, which I'm sure kowenicki has read

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Ninsect on 07 January 2015

Puppyroach said:

LordLichtenstein said:

Puppyroach said:

So 10 million sold to consumers by december 5th? Not to shabby ;).

No shipped.

Hey, I am just trying to be part of the ridicolous speculations as the rest of you! If you can assume it has shipped 10 million by december 5th based on a wordsheet and a NEOgaf post, then I can assume it is sold to consumer, not shipped :).

THis is from a shareholder's meeting. The only thing they care about is how much MS is selling to retailers because that's where the money comes from.

Also, that post is not a normal neogaf post. It's basically neogaf's source authority. The same one that bans people for not backing up what they say with sources.

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