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ioi said:
SamuelRSmith said:
My guess is that he has formulas with various weights and inputs to pump out the numbers, which may work across platforms (ie, if he knows one region typically over-or-under represents a particular console, so if you have numbers for console X in a region, you can make some assumptions about console Y).

He (I guess) modified those weights to get the new PS4 number, and thus also got a new X1 number.

Gold star for this man. It's not that difficult.


ioi, please correct the error made June 28th. Please.



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The master mod on GAF said it is 8.3-8.5m sold to consumers at early December according with sources.

Fell free to believe or not... BTW there are a interview where MS says to be hitting 10 million... the interview happened in Dec 5th.

We just need to wait the financial reports now... oh wait...



ethomaz said:

The master mod on GAF said it is 8.3-8.5m sold to consumers at early December according with sources.

Fell free to believe or not... BTW there are a interview where MS says to be hitting 10 million... the interview happened in Dec 5th.

We just need to wait the financial reports now... oh wait...


I would very much like to see/listen to that interview?



LordLichtenstein said:

I would very much like to see/listen to that interview?

It was not a interview... sorry... it was a presentation.

https://bn1-word-view.officeapps.live.com/wv/mWord.aspx?ui=en%2DUS&rs=en%2DUS&WOPISrc=http%3A%2F%2Fbn1%2D15%2Dview%2Dwopi%2Ewopi%2Elive%2Enet%3A808%2Foh%2Fwopi%2Ffiles%2F%40%2FwFileId%3FwFileId%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%253A80%252Fglobal%252FInvestor%252FRenderingAssets%252FDownloads%252FFY15%252FMicrosoft%255F2014ASM%252Edocx&access_token=1&access_token_ttl=0&wdMobileHost=2

Slide 9.

Edit - To help the guys.

"Finally, our gaming business is thriving with the Xbox One hitting 10 million units sold. I am thrilled to welcome Mojang and Minecraft community to Microsoft.  "



kowenicki said:
Funny that. So the only reason to down the ONE is the fact that the PS4 was overtracked. How very scientific.

I'd have waited until after the financials if I was them.

They collect their own data to come with their figures. Now if they know the ps4 numbers they have to adjust their calculations. I'd say they use the same formula for both consoles sales data so therefore both are affected. 



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ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

I would very much like to see/listen to that interview?

It was not a interview... sorry... it was a presentation.

https://bn1-word-view.officeapps.live.com/wv/mWord.aspx?ui=en%2DUS&rs=en%2DUS&WOPISrc=http%3A%2F%2Fbn1%2D15%2Dview%2Dwopi%2Ewopi%2Elive%2Enet%3A808%2Foh%2Fwopi%2Ffiles%2F%40%2FwFileId%3FwFileId%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww%252Emicrosoft%252Ecom%253A80%252Fglobal%252FInvestor%252FRenderingAssets%252FDownloads%252FFY15%252FMicrosoft%255F2014ASM%252Edocx&access_token=1&access_token_ttl=0&wdMobileHost=2

Slide 9.

Edit - To help the guys.

"Finally, our gaming business is thriving with the Xbox One hitting 10 million units sold. I am thrilled to welcome Mojang and Minecraft community to Microsoft.  "


NeoGaf was all over this a while ago, and it is shipped, not sold. :)



LordLichtenstein said:

NeoGaf was all over this a while ago, and it is shipped, not sold. :)

Yeap... sold to retail (shipped).

This is sold to consumers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146372291&postcount=2585

If true then VGC is overtracking by a good amount.

They believe it reached 10 million at end of December... sold to consumers.



ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

NeoGaf was all over this a while ago, and it is shipped, not sold. :)

Yeap... sold to retail (shipped).

This is sold to consumers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146372291&postcount=2585

If true then VGC is overtracking by a good amount.

They believe it will reach 10 million at end of December... sold to consumers.


exactly.



ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

NeoGaf was all over this a while ago, and it is shipped, not sold. :)

Yeap... sold to retail (shipped).

This is sold to consumers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146372291&postcount=2585

If true then VGC is overtracking by a good amount.

They believe it reached 10 million at end of December... sold to consumers.

So going by that, the PS4 is leading the X1 by about 8.5M or by a 1.85:1 ratio by the end of 2014. The PS4 might not have hit the 20M milestone, but it is still doing extraodinarily.



Aura7541 said:
ethomaz said:

LordLichtenstein said:

NeoGaf was all over this a while ago, and it is shipped, not sold. :)

Yeap... sold to retail (shipped).

This is sold to consumers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=146372291&postcount=2585

If true then VGC is overtracking by a good amount.

They believe it reached 10 million at end of December... sold to consumers.

So going by that, the PS4 is leading the X1 by about 8.5M or by a 1.85:1 ratio by the end of 2014. The PS4 might not have hit the 20M milestone, but it is still doing extraodinarily.


Xbox One - 10-10.5 million
Playstation 4 - 18.5 million

This is pretty much how I see it.