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who will last the longest?

nintendo 282 69.12%
 
microsoft 26 6.37%
 
sony 99 24.26%
 
Total:407
fatslob-:O on 04 January 2015
KLXVER said:


Well with downloads you dont have to worry about your online connection while playing in SP.

Guess so but if your living in a first world country I don't think connection reliability is much of an issue ...



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generic-user-1 on 04 January 2015

streaming games doesnt work and will not work for a long time. the input lag is to hard for mp.



IkePoR on 04 January 2015
Burek said:
4. They are the only ones who have the ability to milk the same franchises for 25 years, and loyal fans who keep on buying them.

Activision, Rockstar and EA say "hi"



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RubberWhistleHistle on 04 January 2015
jlmurph2 said:


Thats if you think streaming games are the future of the industry...

I do. Every piece of entertainment is heavily streamed besides gaming. In about 10 years I would think all internet providers will have super fast speeds for low costs. Which would make it an easier transition.


there is always going to be a market for physical copies of games. what if nintendo is the one to say that they want to serve that market? couldnt they support both versions of distributing games kind of like how they do now?



Zekkyou on 04 January 2015

Assuming they realize that they need to catch up to modern standards or risk becoming irrelevant, i agree, they'll probably be involved in gaming for the longest. It's their bread and butter after all. I don't expect any of them to leave for a very long time though.

That said, they aren't as invulnerable as the OT implies (intentionally or not). As the 8th gen has shown us, Nintendo are very much as the whims of the market as a whole. Their lack of relevance to the mainstream home console market, as well as the rapid growth of smart phones have resulted in some of their worst financial results in decades.

You 20m comment is somewhat baseless though. Nintendo have never sold only 20m units in a generation, and without them giving us a proper revenue break down of the GC we don't know if they could sustain themselves on an install base of only 20m. I highly doubt they could. They're too big to survive off a revenue steam that small (not without downsizing, anyway).



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KLXVER on 04 January 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:
badgenome said:
I don't know that any of those things are true. Nintendo is just as quick to put a franchise on the shelf as anyone if sales disappoint, and although this could be more about cost of opportunity than games not being profitable, I don't think Nintendo games are as cheap to develop as you seem to.

We also don't know that Nintendo can be profitable off a 20 million install base because they've always had successful handhelds to carry their unsuccessful consoles. And by following their own path it's true that Nintendo is sometimes less affected by "craziness" in the industry than other companies, but this has a trade off because it also means that they sometimes see their business decline even when the industry as a whole isn't declining.

So I'd expect Nintendo to be in the console business longer, but because they are only a video game company and not a corporation that dabbles in video games like the other two.


yeah, nintendo does exactly what you said in the first paragraph. i feel that punch out for wii was not a true effort to deliver a "next gen" type of punch out experience. yes, it had motion controls and i think it worked pretty well for the most part, and was fun, which is a must of course.. but they didnt put the effort into making it better that they did when they made super punch out. super punch out on the snes was leaps and bounds above the original with new things you can do, new characters, new modes, etc.. but punch out wii felt almost like a remake.. and i feel that a similar thing can happen with star fox. they are giving us one because we have been clamoring for it for years, but if they treat it like punch out, then its going to be disappointing. so i do agree that they are certainly guilty of trying to be cost effective with some of these things, and its at the expense of giving us a true successor in a beloved franchise. 

also, the fact that nintendo's business can decline even when the industry isnt is a good thing. the fact that they ultimately have control over their own business is a more comforting feeling than being subject to all these different forces that you dont necessarily have any control over at all.


I highly disagree. Super Punch-Out!! is not a good game. It has sluggish controls and its hard to tell what youre even doing sometimes. Punch-Out!! for the Wii was very well made. There are thousands of little details that could mess up the entire game, but they nailed every single one and expanded upon the formula. When you hit someone, it actually feels like youre hitting them. In Super Punch-Out!! I dont get that feeling at all. Its just a mediocre game that Im very happy they left in the past...



Lawlight on 04 January 2015
RubberWhistleHistle said:

1. they dont need to pour millions of dollars into a game to make it profitable.

2. they can be profitable off of 20m console sales

3. they are virtually unaffected by all the crazy crap that happens in this industry.

what are your guys' thoughts on who will make consoles the longest?


1. So, why did they have so many losses in the past quarters?

2. Nopes, they can't. They've always had handhelds bailing them out.

3. What crazy crap?



KLXVER on 04 January 2015
fatslob-:O said:
KLXVER said:


Well with downloads you dont have to worry about your online connection while playing in SP.

Guess so but if your living in a first world country I don't think connection reliability is much of an issue ...


Yeah, Im sure no one in the first world countries were affected by the PS3 hack or the recent DDOS attacks...



IkePoR on 04 January 2015
Zekkyou said:
Assuming they realize that they need to catch up to modern standards or risk becoming irrelevant, i agree, they'll probably be involved in gaming for the longest. It's their bread and butter after all. I don't expect any of them to leave for a very long time though.

That said, they aren't as invulnerable as the OT implies (intentionally or not). As the 8th gen has shown us, Nintendo are very much as the whims of the market as a whole. Their lack of relevance to the mainstream home console market, as well as the rapid growth of smart phones have resulted in some of their worst financial results in decades.

MS might be out of it after another gen or so.  They are losing money on the Xbox brand, I can't imagine a company as huge as they are to continue to waste even if it's peanuts.



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RubberWhistleHistle on 04 January 2015
KLXVER said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
badgenome said:
I don't know that any of those things are true. Nintendo is just as quick to put a franchise on the shelf as anyone if sales disappoint, and although this could be more about cost of opportunity than games not being profitable, I don't think Nintendo games are as cheap to develop as you seem to.

We also don't know that Nintendo can be profitable off a 20 million install base because they've always had successful handhelds to carry their unsuccessful consoles. And by following their own path it's true that Nintendo is sometimes less affected by "craziness" in the industry than other companies, but this has a trade off because it also means that they sometimes see their business decline even when the industry as a whole isn't declining.

So I'd expect Nintendo to be in the console business longer, but because they are only a video game company and not a corporation that dabbles in video games like the other two.


yeah, nintendo does exactly what you said in the first paragraph. i feel that punch out for wii was not a true effort to deliver a "next gen" type of punch out experience. yes, it had motion controls and i think it worked pretty well for the most part, and was fun, which is a must of course.. but they didnt put the effort into making it better that they did when they made super punch out. super punch out on the snes was leaps and bounds above the original with new things you can do, new characters, new modes, etc.. but punch out wii felt almost like a remake.. and i feel that a similar thing can happen with star fox. they are giving us one because we have been clamoring for it for years, but if they treat it like punch out, then its going to be disappointing. so i do agree that they are certainly guilty of trying to be cost effective with some of these things, and its at the expense of giving us a true successor in a beloved franchise. 

also, the fact that nintendo's business can decline even when the industry isnt is a good thing. the fact that they ultimately have control over their own business is a more comforting feeling than being subject to all these different forces that you dont necessarily have any control over at all.


I highly disagree. Super Punch-Out!! is not a good game. It has sluggish controls and its hard to tell what youre even doing sometimes. Punch-Out!! for the Wii was very well made. There are thousands of little details that could mess up the entire game, but they nailed every single one and expanded upon the formula. When you hit someone, it actually feels like youre hitting them. In Super Punch-Out!! I dont get that feeling at all. Its just a mediocre game that Im very happy they left in the past...

super punch out was a classic and felt like a huge step up in almost every category. i feel like the noise that it makes when you punch someone in that game is very satisfying and i never had any problems being able to tell what was going on lol. i like punch out for wii a whole lot, but it feels more like a remake than an actual next gen punchout that it should have been. it was very disappointing to me. i think their ONE new character was a riot and hilarious. i wish we could have saw more of that. every other character was a remake of the first game. its disappointng. you have to admit that more original characters would have made the game way more enjoyable.