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Nintendo HDS When?

2016 102 30.72%
 
2017 230 69.28%
 
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Frogger on 03 December 2014
Mr Khan said:
Announced this E3, i say, and then released in April 16.

It's big brother console will come Nov 16.


We're literally on the same wavelength.



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zorg1000 on 03 December 2014
Seece said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Given that N3DS is launching next year, I'd say late 2017/ early 2018.

Why do you assume that will give the boost needed? It won't. 3DS is well past its peak years and is only going to further decline.

3DS successor will launch early 16 - late 16.

If they leave it till 2017 ... their handheld part of the business will look incredibly week.

3DS will be lucky to pass 6m in 2016, given it's barely gonna do 10m this year.

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3DS will be lucky to pass 6m in 2016? (extremely low,i feel that you want 3ds to end up with under 70m,sorry but 3ds will sell at least 80m)l!Currently 3ds in japan sells what it was selling in 2013 thanks to new3ds(also new3ds/xl is on the same pace with dsi),the same could happen in USA/EU!Just wait for 2015...!And for god sake read  iwata's interviews,i think nintendo's president knows better...Ah i will repeat something because i saw another comment of you!New3ds/xl is on the same pace with dsi,where did you see that it is doing bad...?Media create predicts 1.2m new 3ds/xl by the end of the year...

It's not about what I want, it's about what I think, and judging by how it's performed yoy since its inception, 6m is completely realistic for 2016. Nothing suggests it will sell better than that.

Why don't you look at their shipments (which translate to sales before you say anything ...)

Shipped nearly 13m last year, will ship around 8 - 10m this year. Yet you think 6m for 2016 is odd? I don't think so. Nintendo systems of late have not had good sustained legs.

I don't care what Iwata thinks, they thought WiiU would be a successful system and it's sold 10m over 2 years and 3 holidays, so why act like he's infalible?

Edit - to further prove your point wrong, the MIGHTY DS did 6m in its 7th year. 2016 will be 3DS's 6th year. 3DS doesn't and hasn't and will not sell anywhere near DS sales alligned at any point.

Yep 6m for 2016 sounds about right.

This year will likely be around 10-11 million, next year about 8 million and 5-6 million for 2016. That would put it about 65 million by the end of 2016 and around 70 million lifetime.



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platformmaster918 on 03 December 2014
Gears_of_War_4 said:
why wouldn't nintendo's next handheld be hd? aren't most smartphones hd and we're talking about a new handheld that's coming in a few years.

price.  They are $200 with big contracts.  Nintendo needs their new handheld to be $200 as 3DS showed at the start.  They won't have any dedicated competition but they still need to stay low on price to be successful.  

I do think Nintendo will achieve 720p on their HDS but in 2017 at the earliest imo




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zorg1000 on 03 December 2014
platformmaster918 said:
Gears_of_War_4 said:
why wouldn't nintendo's next handheld be hd? aren't most smartphones hd and we're talking about a new handheld that's coming in a few years.

price.  Smartphones don't render complicated games at 720p.  They also are $200 with big contracts.  Nintendo needs their new handheld to be $200 as 3DS showed at the start.  They won't have any dedicated competition but they still need to stay low on price to be successful.  


Vita has been $199.99 for over a year now and is most likely sold at a profit (can't imagine Sony would sell it at a loss considering how poorly it sells). 3DS' successor is likely coming in 2016 or 2017 so 3-4 years after Vita hit $199.99, it's not out of the question that a decently more powerful device could be sold at that price in that amount of time.



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zorg1000 on 03 December 2014

How powerful do u guys think the 3DS successor will be assuming it releases in 2016-2017?

Considering that 3DS is somewhere between PSP & Wii in terms of power, I would say HDS (or whatever it's called) will be somewhere between Vita & Wii U in terms of power or roughly equal to 360/PS3 but with more RAM (perhaps about 1gb)



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Soundwave on 03 December 2014

There are $200 tablets today with 7-8 inch HD screens that have chipsets more powerful than the Vita and more RAM right now.

Nintendo's portable Fusion will be able to run Wii U quality games at 540p-720p is my guess. 20nm System on Chip ARM CPU + AMD mobile GPU. 

The home variant will be the same chip with more cores/RAM and run the same games at 1080p with maybe a few extra effects. Don't expect a super powerful console, I think the console version will actually be cheaper than the portable one. 

AMD has also cryptically stated that they have two huge vendor deals for mobile GPUs to two vendors they can't talk about right now for 2016. It's quite possible one of those is Nintendo. 

The iPhone 5s/iPad Air (last year's Apple A7 processor) destroys the Vita for performance, even if Nintendo went with that level of power in 2016 when it will be dated they would demolish the Vita. The Vita is basically the same chip as the iPad 3. 



SnesTea on 04 December 2014
teigaga said:
holiday 2016 for Japan.

Nintendo systems have typically launched in North America first. Dating back to Nintendo DS.



zorg1000 on 04 December 2014
Snesboy said:
teigaga said:
holiday 2016 for Japan.

Nintendo systems have typically launched in North America first. Dating back to Nintendo DS.


3DS launched in Japan first



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Asriel on 04 December 2014

Late 2016, I'm thinking. Home console six to 12 months later. A lot will depend on what kind of software pipeline Nintendo can get running. Whatever launches next, needs to work well from day one. This generation has been turbulent enough, so Nintendo really need to justify their hardware centric approach.



teigaga on 04 December 2014
the_dengle said:

2016 would be a terrible move.

Why so?

Terrible is a strong word..

Waiting til your system is literally not selling is quite a bad move and 3DS is down YOY everywhere I believe and software is drying up, theres no reason why the in 2 years time it will still be selling like hotcakes. Introduce a successor a few years into its decline seems the smarter move, as opposed to releasing it after the system is dead.