Well remember I said a powerful 8-Core + a backup quad-core for background tasks.

It would pretty much have to be 4K compatible at that time. So...

3.6 GHz 8 core i7 CPU (2 cores dedicated for OS).

GPU equivalent to 2015 second highest level graphics card.

16 GB of unified DDR5 RAM (4GB reserve for system).

No disc drive models (cheaper models without disc drive, and premium models with).

64 GB unremoveable SSD (for system OS) and 3 TB upgradeable HDD (5 TB on model with no disc drive).

x64 architecture

Overall, I think they follow the same gameplan as this gen- release relatively mid-range specs that just meet the resolution requirement for a lower price than normal (expect around $400-500 again).

And that's the problem. PS4 is also has a GPU that's about 8x faster, with 7x higher memory bandwidth. And sure, it can run TloU at 1080p at mostly 60fps, yet the improved shadows are only available with 30fps lock. So 4K at 30fps should indeed be achievable, ie without any further enhancements.

Anti aliasing is already at a minimum in most console titles. Cheap solutions to reduce shimmer is about the most you get. You'll still need that at 4K.

Bigger effects will come first, otherwise people still without a 4K tv will literally see no difference. (Well I guess they'll be enjoying 4xFSAA by downsampling to 1080p)

I'm conflicted, I love a big screen with high resolution, yet I'm also eager to see some actual ray tracing used for realistic lighting, and VR needs 60 or even 75fps. 4k x2 @ 75fps ray traced VR games, not in 2020.

Recently console games have switched away from using MSAA because post process techniques are giving typically better AA quality for the cost, e.g. approximating 4x4 MSAA quality. On 2160p, using 2x2 hardware MSAA may be just fine in terms of quality, and so the cost per pixel will be lower than using post-process AA. Either that or they use a post-process AA with smaller filter size... still reducing the cost per pixel.

To be honest, unless you look up close it's hard to see the 4k difference except on a very large format screen so in next console generation we may see 4k output but not full native 4k resolution, for example 1920x2160 scaled by 2x horizontally, or using hybrid AA.

In a way I think we can think of 4k as needing not 4x the power, but closer to 2x~2.5x because of the advantages of smaller pixels and visual limits.  A comparison is 4k Blu-ray spec is not 4x the spec for 1080p Blu-ray but about 2.5x capacity and max 2.5x the bitrate.

Isn't it because MSAA only anti aliases the geometry? All the post process effects, transparancies and temporal aliasing effects still need to be dealt with.

Plus the 4K difference will be very noticeable in VR, next-gen 4K VR glasses should be very possible. OR is already aiming for 1440p and there are rumours Sony is too. And 4K smart phone screens are on their way.

Blu-ray 4k does use 4x the bandwidth, you're forgetting that h.265 is about twice as efficient as h.264 (and more than 4x as computationally expensive)


But yes 2560x2160p (2.6x 1080p) and 1600p (2.5x 1080p) upscaling is probably the max we'll get next gen.

I revive my post posted more than 3 years ago, maybe some new people want to guess, after all we probably have 3 more years to wait for a 2020 PS5. Its funny some people that posted are banned!. 

So Nintendo continued selling a lot less, and the switch came in less than 5 years. I was half right there. Microsoft updated the One.

As you can read, at the end of 2014 some of us were predicting 4k 30 fps, others 1440p and some even 4k 60 fps. Ryzen was not here, so it wasn´t named. And still its just a posibility. Also there are rumors now about a discrete graphic card for PS5, if true cost would rise. If not, Ryzen APU is the most obvious guess.

 2020 PS5 Specs

CPU: Anyway I said 2x the PS4s CPU performance and maybe I´ll be right.

RAM: Many people thought 16 GB of ram would be enough. Other scalated to 64.

I still say 32GB of ram would be nice, but now I think 24 or 16GB have more chance to become the final number. So maybe I was being too willing, we´ll see.

 GPU: I thought about a GPU with 12-14 teraflops in 2014. Of course I would love that, but now I think 10-12 Tf  will be more of a real thing. Again, we´ll see.

 I still think of 2TB drive or a hibrid one with the same storage.

 I also stated 0.8 to 1 TB/s bandwith, but that is not gonna happen, Im wrong there for sure.

2017 GPUs have better optimization of data transfer and compression, I don´t think we are going to get more than 0.5 TB/s. Also HMB2 is too expensive and hard to find. DDR6 will be the memory of choise.

 Anyway, we are half way there (2020 PS5).

What do you think the PS5 hardware especifications will be by 2020?

You're a little vague in your predictions, like what type of cpu are you expecting? A jaguar or ryzen, maybe something else??

I wrote down these specs in another post recently:

"I expect a 4 core cpu with 8 threads (2,8ghz), 9 TF gpu, 16 GB gddr6 (448 GB/s bandwidth) and a mechanical hard drive for laptops (140+ mb/s read speed)."

But I'm changing that, I now expect a 8 core with (most likely zen2 will the architecture) 2,6 ghz clock speed. With 6 cores available for games and 2 core is for the OS. Rest of the specs remain the same in my prediction.

A 4 core cpu would just not be good enough for next-gen system especially with 1 core being taken by the OS.

It's just for fun dude :)

What I'd LIKE them to do? Release something that has a power leap of PS2 to PS3. I'd like them to eat the cost on hardware and then recoup on software, like the industry use to do oh... forever until this generation?

What WILL they do? Probably exactly the opposite of that and pull another PS4/Xbox One where it's basically a PS4 Pro 1.5. They'll try and tell us it's next generation because the OS is "snappier" or how great it is at uploading video streams that only 1% will actually be able to monetize to any useful degree.