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Lyrikalstylez said:
forethought14 said:

Nintendo's crazy because of that? If thats the case, they've been crazy for a while now. There are some $250 Wii U deals around if you know where to look. If I recall, Wii was $249.99 when it launched, while the cheapest Xbox 360 was only $50 more expensive, and that's with the huge difference in power. Hell, the cheapest 360 got down to $199.99 in 2008, while Wii was still $250. Why is this a problem? This has happened before with Wii, so was Nintendo also crazy then?


God I remember that, Nintendo sure loves making money off of people don't they


Because I'm sure you work for free & live of thin air...

I don't see many PS4 &X1 owners bitchin' about having to pay 50$/year to play online, that is an unprecendented rip off! Hidden costs are more telling about how Sony & MS see their customers, more than dude/bro buddy PR they feed us... 4 the gamers... yeh of course... tell me some more bedtime stories!



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Game_God said:

Barozi, I'm not stupid, I'm not saying that MS should sell the X1 for 1$, my point was that there is more than discounting a console in order to have "More consoles = more games sales = more profits from games".

I see people in here saying "Nintendo should slash the WiiU price by 50$" like it's nothing... the basic model is at 200$, that would represent a 25% price cut! In real life you can't do that kind of radical actions just because.

Nintendo knows better than anyone in this forum the margins they have & wherre they are making money, don't you think?


They make the most money from their own developed games most of the time (N64, Gamecube, WiiU). Perhaps Wii as well since they sold so much Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc. games.

Current problem on WiiU is that the userbase is so low that even their best selling games only give them a decent profit, instead of a great one.
If you know that the library of a typical WiiU owner is consisting of over 50% of Nintendo developed (or at least published) titles, then they should pursue a higher userbase.

Obviously they shouldn't cut the price in half or whatever, but a slight price cut along with some added value by including a game or heck even a small third party hard drive should do the trick. The holiday season is only once a year, but they don't really offer enough to make people go out and buy their console.



Game_God said:
Ruler said:

they have to drop the gamepad imo if they ever want to have a chance. Nintendo gaming division has no giant electronics or software company backing them up its only nintendo so they cant sell their console below the production cost


1 thing that would make cars cheaper is if car makers would drop putting engines in them, then cars would be surely cheaper...


your logic is flawed, the gamepad is not essential to play the games



Ruler said:
Game_God said:
Ruler said:

they have to drop the gamepad imo if they ever want to have a chance. Nintendo gaming division has no giant electronics or software company backing them up its only nintendo so they cant sell their console below the production cost


1 thing that would make cars cheaper is if car makers would drop putting engines in them, then cars would be surely cheaper...


your logic is flawed, the gamepad is not essential to play the games

I disagree with you, while A gamepad is not essential or mandatory to play console games, in this case: the WiiU, the large majority of the games use it in a mandatory way.

You would have to rewrite & retool the code of all the games existing, patch them, redo the console OS, drop a unique, differentiating way of playing for what, maybe a few thousand sales? All the games would have to be retooled, you certainly can see how it doesn't make sense at all.

If you simply remove the gamepad on the WiiU, the console does not work, hence my car engine comparison. To make the WiiU work without the Pad would take enormous amount of time, money for an hazardous outcome.

It takes at least between 1 & 2 years to make a game, so games without the gamepad would start releasing in 2 years, near the end of the WiiU life cycle, can't see that happening or anyone interested in dropping money on such an hazardous venture. I'm sure you can agree with that?

Cheers



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Barozi said:
Game_God said:

Barozi, I'm not stupid, I'm not saying that MS should sell the X1 for 1$, my point was that there is more than discounting a console in order to have "More consoles = more games sales = more profits from games".

I see people in here saying "Nintendo should slash the WiiU price by 50$" like it's nothing... the basic model is at 200$, that would represent a 25% price cut! In real life you can't do that kind of radical actions just because.

Nintendo knows better than anyone in this forum the margins they have & wherre they are making money, don't you think?


They make the most money from their own developed games most of the time (N64, Gamecube, WiiU). Perhaps Wii as well since they sold so much Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc. games.

Current problem on WiiU is that the userbase is so low that even their best selling games only give them a decent profit, instead of a great one.
If you know that the library of a typical WiiU owner is consisting of over 50% of Nintendo developed (or at least published) titles, then they should pursue a higher userbase.

Obviously they shouldn't cut the price in half or whatever, but a slight price cut along with some added value by including a game or heck even a small third party hard drive should do the trick. The holiday season is only once a year, but they don't really offer enough to make people go out and buy their console.

I'm all for a price drop, I like to spend money as much as the next guy & I agree that a price drop helps the sales. I'm sure Nintendo is thinking about it, they have been in this business for quite a long so let's trust them a bit don't you think?



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Ruler said:
Game_God said:
Ruler said:

they have to drop the gamepad imo if they ever want to have a chance. Nintendo gaming division has no giant electronics or software company backing them up its only nintendo so they cant sell their console below the production cost


1 thing that would make cars cheaper is if car makers would drop putting engines in them, then cars would be surely cheaper...


your logic is flawed, the gamepad is not essential to play the games


Two games that have been with the Wii U from the get-go absolutely require it: Nintendoland and Zombi U.



NightDragon83 said:
*graphs and stuff*

 

You could've just said, "3DS." and that post would've been refuted with one word.



Clyde32 said:
If you are going by Black Friday deals, then why not use Wii U BF deals as well? Unless the Xbox One is that cheap otherwise?


There are no Wii U BF sales.  Thats what he is saying.  It's still $299 with the same O bundle from earler this year.  They could at least thrown in an additional game.



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cutzman25 said:
Clyde32 said:
If you are going by Black Friday deals, then why not use Wii U BF deals as well? Unless the Xbox One is that cheap otherwise?


There are no Wii U BF sales.  Thats what he is saying.  It's still $299 with the same O bundle from earler this year.  They could at least thrown in an additional game.


http://wiiudaily.com/wii-u-black-friday-deals/



NintendoPie said:
NightDragon83 said:
*graphs and stuff*

 

You could've just said, "3DS." and that post would've been refuted with one word.

Yeah but the topic was mainly home consoles not handhelds... and the original GB was the same price as when it launched ($89.99) for a looong time before it received its first official price drop, which was sometime in the mid 90s, I believe when the redesigned "Play It Loud" series was released.

Besides, on a website called VGChartz... charts and graphs are always better!  :)



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.