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prinz_valium said:

Fifa 15
US attachrate: 3,5% (plausible, because Us don't like soccer)
EU attachrate: 32.2% (plausible, because in Europe soccer is >>>>>> all)
RoW attachrate: 31.3% (what the same like Europe?)

 

PS4 Sport games sales in North America

NBA 2K15 (Basketball) - 500,000

Madden 15 (American Football) - 870,000

MLB The Show 14 (Baseball) - 390,000

NHL 15 (Ice Hockey) - 110,000

FIFA 15 (Association Football) - 290,000

Have to consider no sport dominates NA like FIFA does Europe.



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prinz_valium said:

completely wrong
u have this figures from where? the official earnig realse? that is revenue NOT units

a hell of overtracked in RoW

I will give you an example...

Destiny launch attach rate in US is 25%... NPD data.

It is undertracked in a lot of data here even hardware.



Yeah those NA figures seem too low and the rest of the world numbers too high.



    

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ethomaz said:

prinz_valium said:

completely wrong
u have this figures from where? the official earnig realse? that is revenue NOT units

a hell of overtracked in RoW

I will give you an example...

Destiny launch attach rate in US is 25%... NPD data.

It is undertracked in a lot of data here even hardware.


omg stop this plz
u being all the time wrong
there is never a single time u being right, if the numbers dont favour the ps4

my figure is first week only
NPD is 4 weeks.

VGC attachrate for ps4 destiny first 4 weeks (npd tracking period) in the us is 27,4%
so even overtracked in the us



Has it never crossed your mind that US and EU tend to buy more games digitally, while RoW buys more retail titles due to bad internet (but not limited to that reason alone)?



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BraLoD said:
At least here FIFA is VERY popular, should have a super high attach rate.
Watch Dogs and Destiny were very hyped everywhere before launch, should be possible to minor markets to achive greater attach rates.
Unity I really don't know.


where is here?
did u take into account, that RoW account for sout america + asia + australia + kanada + some other minor markets.

yes, fifa is VERY popular in sout amerika. and a 30% fist week attachrate for sout america would be totally fine.
but this 30% is including oll the other region, too
so if the other regions have only a 15% attachrate, sout america need 45% to result in an 30% over all attachrate (if we asume, that south amecia and the rest would be the same size)

thats not right ofc. this is just an example to explain how this all works out
32% for fifa RoW overall is huge
42% for Watchdogs is Impossible (not this are still only one week attachrates)

 

Burek said:
Has it never crossed your mind that US and EU tend to buy more games digitally, while RoW buys more retail titles due to bad internet (but not limited to that reason alone)?

yes, but thats still not enough, to make that huge gap.
to tie the overall attachrate for watchdogs as example, US and EU need a 50% digital attachrate. and from the ubisoft investor call we know this figure was only 10% for next gen consoles

It still does not fit. that higher digital attachrate for us and eu would explain 2 or 3 percent. but not this double figures or other weird stuff
and what about destiny? a quasi online only multiplayer with over 10% higher attachrate. in the region, where people dont have internet and prefer physical copies ;)



Fifa is believable. The rest seems very unlikely.



I think Europe is actually undertracked in most cases but ioi doesn't know where so he puts it in ROW



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LOL at how desperate prinz_Vallium is toi nit piock any negative against ps4. Out of all the numbers we have this is what you pick?? Should I call him Prinz_downplayer?



prinz_valium said:
Kerotan said:
Maybe they need to up the other regions so they're not under tracked, PS4 software is not over tracked over all. They just don't know where to put all the numbers. And PS4 has sold huge numbers in the ROW.


That make zero sense.
I put some units to RoW because i track US and EU to low?
Yes, the Ps4 sold well in RoW, but what does that have to do with the attachrate? It doenst matter, if u sell 1m or 2m. the attachrate is still software units per hardware unit sold.

And why do u say PS4 software is not over tracked over all? We don't know that.
We only know its heavily overtracked in RoW and decent accurate for UK.  US is probably decent, too



They do that all the time with hardware. ioi has the 360 2 million above what NPD says, because he doesn't know where they're sold. But they are sold. Should he just remove 2 million from the 360 ltd because he doesn't know where it's been sold?