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estebxx on 24 November 2014

Fifa is incredibly popular in ROW nothing wrong there, in my county having a console and NOT having a FIFA game kind of makes you a weirdo... (and im one of those very few weirdos.)



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prinz_valium on 24 November 2014
Talal said:
Fifa is believable. The rest seems very unlikely.


jup. Fifa is the only one, that could be true. the rest is kind of ridiculous.

TheWark said:

 


You must be dizzy from all the trying to downplay PS4??? You and dark feaor and Koweniki must be having a competition.
TheJusticar said:
LOL at how desperate prinz_Vallium is toi nit piock any negative against ps4. Out of all the numbers we have this is what you pick?? Should I call him Prinz_downplayer?

seems like some1 really likes me, if they create alts just to post in my topic.



DonFerrari on 24 November 2014

You could change the googles and maybe question if RoW HW isn't undertracked then the reason for excessively high attach ratio. And I wouldn't put behind the possibility of Fifa attach ratio in Brazil being 70% and close to that on some other South América countries and even some Asian ones.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ninsect on 24 November 2014
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
Seems to be Undertracked.

Sony shipped this year: 284m games across PS4 + PS3 + Vita + PSP.

VGC shows this year: 121m games sold across PS4 + PS4 + Vita + PSP.

A hell of undertracked.


Er, they dont quote that.

They only quote revenue... and for FY 2013 it was 384bn yen ($324m) and this includes digital downloads PLUS retail.

284m units in one year would be billions of dollars. lol

 

 

 

$324m revenue from as much as 150m games shipped doesn't make much sense. You sure about that?



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Ninsect on 24 November 2014
kowenicki said:
Ninsect said:

$324m revenue from as much as 150m games shipped doesn't make much sense. You sure about that?

I think so.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sonypre.pdf

Slide 16

As per the key quoted: Hardware is in units, software (sales) in billions of yen revenue.

Oh I figured out the problem. You just got the dollar amount incorrect. It's actually ~$3.2B



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Emperorbach on 24 November 2014

PS is always undertracked on this site
is the sky blue
i really feel the ps software as awhole is undertracked a good 30 million max and 12m minimum



prinz_valium on 24 November 2014
DonFerrari said:
You could change the googles and maybe question if RoW HW isn't undertracked then the reason for excessively high attach ratio. And I wouldn't put behind the possibility of Fifa attach ratio in Brazil being 70% and close to that on some other South América countries and even some Asian ones.


that doenst change the fact, that VGC is wrong tracking.
if vgc would put 1m more hardware units to Row, that would affect the software sales for RoW figure and increase it.

yes, Brazil could be 70% attachrate (not fist week only, but maybe first month)
but as i said, RoW also includes canada and australia  where fifa has probaly a 5-10% attacharte at most, just like the us

 

Ninsect said:
kowenicki said:
Ninsect said:

$324m revenue from as much as 150m games shipped doesn't make much sense. You sure about that?

I think so.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sonypre.pdf

Slide 16

As per the key quoted: Hardware is in units, software (sales) in billions of yen revenue.

Oh I figured out the problem. You just got the dollar amount incorrect. It's actually ~$3.2B

u also have to take into account, that sony does not make 60$ revenue for third party physical games. theyre not the publisher.
only first party games and digital are at full value for the earing release.

3.2/60 would be ~50m games
3.2/40 would be ~80m games
3.2/30 would be ~105m games
3.2/25 would be  ~130m games



Ninsect on 24 November 2014
prinz_valium said:

 

Ninsect said:
kowenicki said:
Ninsect said:

$324m revenue from as much as 150m games shipped doesn't make much sense. You sure about that?

I think so.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sonypre.pdf

Slide 16

As per the key quoted: Hardware is in units, software (sales) in billions of yen revenue.

Oh I figured out the problem. You just got the dollar amount incorrect. It's actually ~$3.2B

u also have to take into account, that sony does not make 60$ revenue for third party physical games. theyre not the publisher.
only first party games and digital are at full value for the earing release.

3.2/60 would be ~50m games
3.2/40 would be ~80m games
3.2/30 would be ~105m games
3.2/25 would be  ~130m games

Yep but Sony does not make $60 from first party games either. Retailers buy them for less. If I had to guess I'd say Sony get perhaps around $20 per game sold on average => ~160m games sold



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prinz_valium on 24 November 2014
Ninsect said:
prinz_valium said:

 

Ninsect said:
kowenicki said:
Ninsect said:

$324m revenue from as much as 150m games shipped doesn't make much sense. You sure about that?

I think so.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sonypre.pdf

Slide 16

As per the key quoted: Hardware is in units, software (sales) in billions of yen revenue.

Oh I figured out the problem. You just got the dollar amount incorrect. It's actually ~$3.2B

u also have to take into account, that sony does not make 60$ revenue for third party physical games. theyre not the publisher.
only first party games and digital are at full value for the earing release.

3.2/60 would be ~50m games
3.2/40 would be ~80m games
3.2/30 would be ~105m games
3.2/25 would be  ~130m games

Yep but Sony does not make $60 from first party games either. Retailers buy them for less. If I had to guess I'd say Sony get perhaps around $20 per game sold on average => ~160m games sold


depends how they account.
look at the big difference between revenues on gaap base and non gaap base for the big publishers. it they would not count like that, no game would ever gross 1 billion on fist week.

20 bucks seems low, becaus the royalty alone is between 7 and 15 bucks.
ill do some research



Kerotan on 24 November 2014

PS4 software is under tracked big time on here. Come on VGchartz adjust the PS4 software up to the right number!