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Forums - Sales - Global Hardware/Software Up - 1 November 2014

ohmylanta1003 on 11 November 2014
Ninsect said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
Wii U undertracked by about 70-80k. I wish VGChartz would stop undertracking it every single week. It's getting pretty ridiculous at this point. As far as I'm concerned, it's already broken the 10 million mark. I guess we will just have to wait for an official announcement until VGChartz fixes it.

WiiU barely has anything on shelves when we compare VGC tracking to Nintendo shipments so no


LOL! It's a joke. Just mocking all the people that come to these sale threads. Every single fucking week people come to these chart threads and complain about how undertracked the PS4 is. I'm honestly just sick of it at this point. If it's widely accepted that it's undertracked, then you don't have to be the 150th person to say so. Or maybe it's not as undertracked as everyone wants it to be. Everyone here acts like it's a fucking crime that a sales prediction website isn't spot on. Just deal with it. It doesn't have to be the main point of discussion every time charts are released.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

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Ninten78 on 11 November 2014

Wii should be discontinued...this is from a Ninty fan those sales would go to Wii U...maybe



ohmylanta1003 on 11 November 2014
CGI-Quality said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
Ninsect said:

WiiU barely has anything on shelves when we compare VGC tracking to Nintendo shipments so no


LOL! It's a joke. Just mocking all the people that come to these sale threads. Every single fucking week people come to these chart threads and complain about how undertracked the PS4 is. I'm honestly just sick of it at this point. If it's widely accepted that it's undertracked, then you don't have to be the 150th person to say so. Or maybe it's not as undertracked as everyone wants it to be. Everyone here acts like it's a fucking crime that a sales prediction website isn't spot on. Just deal with it. It doesn't have to be the main point of discussion every time charts are released.

I'd say, if you're sick of it, you should probably avoid these topics. It would only be "sickening", to me, if such complaints were unfounded. That isn't the case, here.


But the main draw of this site are the sales charts. Why would I want to avoid them? I come here for news and for the charts. The chart threads are always plagued by hundreds of posts complaining about the tracking and it's getting really, really old.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

Ninsect on 11 November 2014
ohmylanta1003 said:
Ninsect said:
ohmylanta1003 said:
Wii U undertracked by about 70-80k. I wish VGChartz would stop undertracking it every single week. It's getting pretty ridiculous at this point. As far as I'm concerned, it's already broken the 10 million mark. I guess we will just have to wait for an official announcement until VGChartz fixes it.

WiiU barely has anything on shelves when we compare VGC tracking to Nintendo shipments so no


LOL! It's a joke. Just mocking all the people that come to these sale threads. Every single fucking week people come to these chart threads and complain about how undertracked the PS4 is. I'm honestly just sick of it at this point. If it's widely accepted that it's undertracked, then you don't have to be the 150th person to say so. Or maybe it's not as undertracked as everyone wants it to be. Everyone here acts like it's a fucking crime that a sales prediction website isn't spot on. Just deal with it. It doesn't have to be the main point of discussion every time charts are released.

Yes it does, when it's painfully obvious. This website is supposed to estimate sales but when amateurs can see the sales are way off then there's something wrong.



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SubiyaCryolite on 11 November 2014

PS4 should have 50% market share by now right?



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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fireburn95 on 11 November 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
fireburn95 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

He also says 'but I can have success in our own space if we're selling a lot of consoles and people are buying games'


Do you think they are really content with selling alot in #2 place? Microsoft want to sell more consoles, as do sony and nintendo. 
And I dont think they'll be content with their sales pace picking up at the sameish rate as ps4 sales have picked up (again due to holidays and probably destiny bundle)

Also having sold more consoles (i.e. winning) is better cause it has the buyers effect. A friend of mine is more likely to buy the ps4 if I have it, vice versa the xbox one.

I think they are a business, not a sports team. Winning isn't everything in business. Actually, it means very very little. There are hundreds of thousands of businesses out there that aren't #1 at what they do, but they are still very happy with the position they are in.


When you create a business, isn't the ideal goal to gain a greater marketshare?

Google own the worlds most popular search engine, they make miles more money on ad revenue than competitors because of that. They are in a stable position to do what they want while you have yahoo losing money and Bing buying them out.

Same thing here. Greater hardware marketshare leads to greater software sales. This isnt going to be microsofts last console. However if they sell 40 million less than PS4 globally lifetime, there will be conversations coming up saying "should we bother creating a new console when we know PS5 is coming out around the same time and has the momentum from PS4, we (microsoft) dont need xbox to be succesful"



GribbleGrunger on 11 November 2014
ohmylanta1003 said:


But the main draw of this site are the sales charts. Why would I want to avoid them? I come here for news and for the charts. The chart threads are always plagued by hundreds of posts complaining about the tracking and it's getting really, really old.

You're right, it is getting really really old. Hopefully, if people keep complaining, it won't happen in the future and then it won't be really really old.



 

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BeElite on 11 November 2014

Why do you guess even talk and debate numbers that are potentially gonna be adjusted up or down 50% in a week or two.

?? just wondering the point of such pointless talk.



fireburn95 on 11 November 2014
CGI-Quality said:
Ka-pi96 said:
fireburn95 said:

 

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I think they are a business, not a sports team. Winning isn't everything in business. Actually, it means very very little. There are hundreds of thousands of businesses out there that aren't #1 at what they do, but they are still very happy with the position they are in.

Though I agree with him that Microsoft would love to be "#1", I think they realize at this point that that's probably far out of reach and would rather just remain relevant. In a business, winning is important, yes, but staying afloat is just as important.


I dunno if microsoft are struggling to even win in their hometown, there will be conversations 2-3 years down the line as to whether they presume the PS5 will dominate too and whether there is a point to releasing a next gen xbox 



JWeinCom on 11 November 2014

Bayonetta drop wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. Still holding out hope for it to reach 1 million.