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prinz_valium on 02 November 2014
steverhcp02 said:

So does anyone remember when the PS4 sold nearly double the Xbox One even when during Destiny week MSFT was giving away a free game of choice? I mean possibly even 2 if someone bought an Xbox One bundle and still was able to choose a free game. The PS4 Destiny bundle wasn't even offering the game free (okay a $10 discount).

And thsi was just the US. Coming up there will be teh GTA 5 bundle overseas, and MSFT has already played their big holiday hand (a temporary 3 month price cut, WTF is that).

So all it took for Sony to double MSFT sales was to put a game in a box with the console and sell it at a $10 discount and still $50 more than an Xbox with 2 free games, including the game Sony was offering....... yeah lets just take a step back here folks.

 

EDIT: and before people jump on my post for including PS4 in this discussion about Xbox One sales. The industry does not exist in a vaccuum. Sales will depend on competition as they are finite. Poor WiiU sales and Xbox One sales conttribute to higher PS4 sales and vice versa due to the market itself. So how the Xbox One sells in relation to the PS4 is an appropriate variable.


yes, we do
3 month of preoder and a highly anticipated new color for the console, vs a one week promotion promoted 1 1/2 week before the start. all on top of the exclusive marketing deal sony had with that game.

 

this will be diffrent



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steverhcp02 on 02 November 2014
prinz_valium said:
steverhcp02 said:

So does anyone remember when the PS4 sold nearly double the Xbox One even when during Destiny week MSFT was giving away a free game of choice? I mean possibly even 2 if someone bought an Xbox One bundle and still was able to choose a free game. The PS4 Destiny bundle wasn't even offering the game free (okay a $10 discount).

And thsi was just the US. Coming up there will be teh GTA 5 bundle overseas, and MSFT has already played their big holiday hand (a temporary 3 month price cut, WTF is that).

So all it took for Sony to double MSFT sales was to put a game in a box with the console and sell it at a $10 discount and still $50 more than an Xbox with 2 free games, including the game Sony was offering....... yeah lets just take a step back here folks.

 

EDIT: and before people jump on my post for including PS4 in this discussion about Xbox One sales. The industry does not exist in a vaccuum. Sales will depend on competition as they are finite. Poor WiiU sales and Xbox One sales conttribute to higher PS4 sales and vice versa due to the market itself. So how the Xbox One sells in relation to the PS4 is an appropriate variable.


yes, we do
3 month of preoder and a highly anticipated new color for the console, vs a one week promotion promoted 1 1/2 week before the start. all on top of the exclusive marketing deal sony had with that game.

 

this will be diffrent

If the exclusive marketing was a huge factor as opposed to giving the game for free explain to me why standalone games sold more on the Xbox One? You can keep ignoring months upon months of data all you want including the failed effect of a drop in $100 entry level, official price drops in EU, previous bundles including TF that still made no long term impact and then pretend as if the PS4 and Sony will do nothing this holiday in terms of deals and pretend the Xbox One will have its own grand ole' time....but that isnt logical.

The Xbox One has ALWAYS had better games at retail (IMO) than the PS4. Forza, Dead rising, titanFall. Has always had more bundles (Madden, TitanFall) with the games given for free. None of these variables have changed. To expect them to all of sudden make a difference, when we already have months of data that prove they simply do not, is ludicrous. 




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prinz_valium on 02 November 2014
steverhcp02 said:
prinz_valium said:
steverhcp02 said:

So does anyone remember when the PS4 sold nearly double the Xbox One even when during Destiny week MSFT was giving away a free game of choice? I mean possibly even 2 if someone bought an Xbox One bundle and still was able to choose a free game. The PS4 Destiny bundle wasn't even offering the game free (okay a $10 discount).

And thsi was just the US. Coming up there will be teh GTA 5 bundle overseas, and MSFT has already played their big holiday hand (a temporary 3 month price cut, WTF is that).

So all it took for Sony to double MSFT sales was to put a game in a box with the console and sell it at a $10 discount and still $50 more than an Xbox with 2 free games, including the game Sony was offering....... yeah lets just take a step back here folks.

 

EDIT: and before people jump on my post for including PS4 in this discussion about Xbox One sales. The industry does not exist in a vaccuum. Sales will depend on competition as they are finite. Poor WiiU sales and Xbox One sales conttribute to higher PS4 sales and vice versa due to the market itself. So how the Xbox One sells in relation to the PS4 is an appropriate variable.


yes, we do
3 month of preoder and a highly anticipated new color for the console, vs a one week promotion promoted 1 1/2 week before the start. all on top of the exclusive marketing deal sony had with that game.

 

this will be diffrent

If the exclusive marketing was a huge factor as opposed to giving the game for free explain to me why standalone games sold more on the Xbox One? You can keep ignoring months upon months of data all you want including the failed effect of a drop in $100 entry level, official price drops in EU, previous bundles including TF that still made no long term impact and then pretend as if the PS4 and Sony will do nothing this holiday in terms of deals and pretend the Xbox One will have its own grand ole' time....but that isnt logical.

The Xbox One has ALWAYS had better games at retail (IMO) than the PS4. Forza, Dead rising, titanFall. Has always had more bundles (Madden, TitanFall) with the games given for free. None of these variables have changed. To expect them to all of sudden make a difference, when we already have months of data that prove they simply do not, is ludicrous. 


because dudebros and bungie fans on xb1?
the one week promo did decent for the xb1 no doubt. but it has no the impact a 2 month picedrop has in the holiday season along with 4 diffrent bundle skus



man-bear-pig on 02 November 2014

This holiday the Xbone is the clear winner in almost every metric so it should beat the PS4 in the US at least. Better online, cheaper, better exclusives, etc. Horizon 2, MCC and Sunset Overdrive are all great games and the only big exclusives Sony have are LBP3 and the car crash that is driveclub (pun intended). Thank you Microsoft and thank you Phil Spencer. I am well and truly humbled.

Doubt it'll ship 12m by years end though.



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

steverhcp02 on 02 November 2014
prinz_valium said:
steverhcp02 said:

If the exclusive marketing was a huge factor as opposed to giving the game for free explain to me why standalone games sold more on the Xbox One? You can keep ignoring months upon months of data all you want including the failed effect of a drop in $100 entry level, official price drops in EU, previous bundles including TF that still made no long term impact and then pretend as if the PS4 and Sony will do nothing this holiday in terms of deals and pretend the Xbox One will have its own grand ole' time....but that isnt logical.

The Xbox One has ALWAYS had better games at retail (IMO) than the PS4. Forza, Dead rising, titanFall. Has always had more bundles (Madden, TitanFall) with the games given for free. None of these variables have changed. To expect them to all of sudden make a difference, when we already have months of data that prove they simply do not, is ludicrous. 


because dudebros and bungie fans on xb1?
the one week promo did decent for the xb1 no doubt. but it has no the impact a 2 month picedrop has in the holiday season along with 4 diffrent bundle skus

Again, the sales and variables do not exist in a vacuum. MSFT has been doing this all year without moving the needle. Youre acting as if the holiday season only exists for MSFT. Bundles have been plentiful and have not moved the needle all year for MSFT. A $100 reduction in entry price for the One did not move the needle. You need to stop looking at the market as if MSFT is the only company that will both A) offer deals and B) benefit from holiday sales. 

The best thing MSFT has going for it are its frequent and beefy updates to system software and finally demphasizing Kinect. These are long term different philosophical approaches that will benefits the One, but not this holiday. The bundles and price drop are simply to stay alive and relevent so that these important shifts can take hold and effect long term sales as people begin to see compelling reasons why they should choose the One over a PS4 or in addition to their PS4. This holiday season is not the time for that shift but MSFT is laying the groundwork.




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FATALITY on 02 November 2014
fireburn95 said:
crucible handlers voice - mwahaha

"you are falling bah-hind xbox"



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FATALITY on 02 November 2014
toastboy44562 said:
Please tag! I will laugh when I am right muhaha


you never are lol



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Seece on 02 November 2014
FATALITY said:
toastboy44562 said:
Please tag! I will laugh when I am right muhaha


you never are lol

Yes he is ...



 

FATALITY on 02 November 2014
Seece said:
bigjon said:
lolol. a 100 dollar reduction in entry level pricepoint gave a marginal short term increase and you think a 50 dollar one is going to cause sales to skyrocket?

http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_12

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#1

ewww



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FATALITY on 02 November 2014
Seece said:
FATALITY said:
toastboy44562 said:
Please tag! I will laugh when I am right muhaha


you never are lol

Yes he is ...

he is what?



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)