You know what drives me nuts. The millions of Bayonetta 2 threads. It seems like everyone who likes the game opens an entirely new thread saying something about it.

I fail to see what this has to do with the topic at hand. Maybe you should open your own thread about it.

I'll tell you what: I bought a Wii U day one, started feeling ripped off early. Game and Wario was a real ripoff, the first time i felt like that about a Nintendo first party game. It sucked and what's more I think the people who put it out knew it sucked when they put it out. I expected something as awesome as WarioWare Smooth Moves, and got something that simply took up space on my drive.

Mario 3D World came out and it sucked in multiplayer. It is pretty good in single player, but it was hailed like the best Mario game since SMB 3 by the press and it just wasn't as compelling as it was made to sound.

DKC:TF came out and I HATED it. It just didn't feel like a DKC game to me. The controls didn't feel right. I don't like this game.

MK8 was great. Hyrule Warriors is fun. I'm enjoying these. I feel like my purchase was worth it now, because I know I will love Smash Bros and Yoshi looks like a good two player game for simple sessions. A few more things will probably be good. I'm okay with my day one purchase now.

But I mean... three or four games in a year? This is silly. Nintendo are struggling to develop for this thing. It's languishing in sales, being IGNORED by third parties almost completely. It doesn't have MINECRAFT, which I'm sorry 'livers-in-the-past,' IS the game kids today want to play.

Read this again:

MINECRAFT NOW IS AS POPULAR AS MARIO WHEN WE WERE KIDS.

Look at the clothes, books, costumes, etc. in stores next time you go. If you don't understand that, saying 'Wii U is best for children because the other consoles don't care about kids,' but you don't understand that the NUMBER ONE GAME KIDS CARE ABOUT IS ONLY ON THE OTHER SYSTEMS, maybe you shouldn't be so surprised people don't agree with you.

Acknowledging that the Wii U's performance in the marketplace is an embarrassment to Nintendo and absolutely not what they expected, that they can't handle development in HD and they are struggling to release enough games, does not make playing the games that are out on Wii U any less fun. If you can't admit that it's sucking at what Nintendo expected it to do in the marketplace, that's too bad. But don't make it everybody else's problem.

Its estimated bill of materials was ~$160 in January 2012, so, if it wasn't already profitable then, it became not too later. Obviously there are also the initial costs to recoup, and the part of online services offered for free, but if we include physical and digital SW sales it should have already given a small overall profit.
Also, Sony indirectly confirms this, as PSV isn't amongst the reasons it listed for the losses (the main reason stated for entertainment division losses in the last annual report was all the costs related to PS4 launch).

Yeah I completely agree that the loss on each launch XB360 or PS3 sold was nothing more than "a grain of salt".  If Microsoft lost billions of dollars during the 7th generation by doing this, then why would they enter the 8th generation doing the same exact thing with the XB1?  Slashing prices left and right with 2 free bundled games doesn't sound like profitability to me. So if one of the three companies only made a profit in the 7th generation, arguably the most profitable generation yet with 260 million consumers buying consoles, then why are they still in the gaming business?  You know?

Wii U has the best games so far. And as long as Zelda and Metroid are great I will consider my money well spent. The games are all that matter to us consumers, stop this partisan nonsense.

I honestly feel sorry for all the Sony fanboys who are enjoying the fact that Nintendo is not doing well at the moment. Nintendo will always be the greatest video game producer of all time, but I'll let history be the judge. Oh wait,  history has already decided, and it's Nintendo? OK then.

Until its drop to Vita current levels for a consistent period of time or Nintendo announce their next system... til then Nope!

Look this is a sales forum, people are interested in unit sales and competition more then they are core business ''profit/loss'' stuff. There is a time and place for this kind of stuff and its pretty much after every big release/flop and marketing move. Its only in the last few weeks Mario karts effect really wore off, Hyrue warriors is now gone, Beyonetta is here (already a flop in Japan). I think its a fair time to re-access the Wii U's future.

Sometimes there is too much of it I admit, but again: SALES FORUM! ;)

Until its drop to Vita current levels for a consistent period of time or Nintendo announce their next system... til then Nope!

Look this is a sales forum, people are interested in unit sales and competition more then they are core business ''profit/loss'' stuff. There is a time and place for this kind of stuff and its pretty much after every big release/flop and marketing move. Its only in the last few weeks Mario karts effect really wore off, Hyrue warriors is now gone, Beyonetta is here (already a flop in Japan). I think its a fair time to re-access the Wii U's future.

Sometimes there is too much of it I admit, but again: SALES FORUM! ;)

Makes me wonder why the 3DS getting dropped to $170 was so expensive for Nintendo then. Vita obviously has a lot more going on under the hood.

Notice how Iwata was gone since June and this was the best quarter Nintendo had in a while? I heard he was really gone because he touched some guy's dingleberries in his office and they caught him. Notice how he said he lost a bunch of weight? That's 'cuz he wants to look good for his new sugarbaby.