Consumers =/= retailers

Software might be a bit undertracked, but not that much. There's a bit of uncertainty as we don't know what Nintendo exactly counts as software.
We know it's physical copies sold, physical copies shipped and digital copies of games that are also physically avalaible. I really don't think they use DLC in there and digital only games are still doubtful.

in that case xb1 would be 1.5m untertacked :D

sold trough : sold in ratio is never 100%

He is giving you substance - there is no exact number to source re world wide retail stock on shelves-  it is an estimate - if you go to your local walmart, Best Buy, gamestop you will see Wii u s for sale and some number will be in stock -   How much stock do you think all the retail channels world wide hold?   

Please beware of the woods; quote trees are getting a bit out of hand^^

No he's not giving substance, because he can't. There is no substance, because you cannot go by estimations on the previous year, and you cannot gauge worldwide retail stock on what you see in your local store. What I see in my local retail store is very different from what most people living in North America will see in theirs. There's no denying the VGC estimate is over, because after all, a LTD sold-through figure cannot be greater than a company's confirmed shipment figure.

The only figure that can be relied upon in any of the threads that have popped up today discussing this subject, is the figure that has been provided by Nintendo. VGC's figure is an estimate. Everybody else's claims for how much it is out by, and the number of consoles sitting around on shelves, are estimates, but unfortunately, those claims have not always been presented as such.

I do agree with that but the decline has been mostly from The start of the year and will continue till November. Not sure if it can beat last year, would be great but it's reaching saturation in Japan. I think it will keep having solid sales but nothing spectacular. Btw even with the N3DS it's now lower than last year at the same point in Japan. I do hope it holds better in November though, Youkai and Pokemon should give it a higher baseline.

z101 said: So Nintendo is back on track and not doomed ... Who would have thought it?

I would not say that -  they have a tough road ahead of them -  also after they ship aprox thier 3.6 million target of Wii u s, their cost basis will go back up again which will make next fiscal year more difficult 

I have never said Nintendo was doomed but their operating business is struggling considerably 

Well at least they made a profit, but those shipment numbers are bad.

There is no source for an exact number- all of these numbers including the earnings are snapshots in time that provide reference points.  It seems you don t like what you are hearing and want to pretend the retail channel does not exist and of it does Nintendo does not keep any Wii u s in it.  The 300k number may be 250k or maybe it's 440k but based on last year and following these types of numbers the consensus is in the 300k range - but as you said last year s number would not be the same as this years number so this year s number is probably higher than last due to higher sales of the Wii u in the comp 6 months-   

I hope you understand the process and substance of these numbers-  I think you have plenty of info from multiple sources to get it-  otherwise I don t think you want to get it