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walsufnir on 14 October 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


LOL Uncharted is going to make the new AC look like a joke in the graphics department and I am willing to bet money that the area you're roaming will be much larger this time around.

Apples and oranges.

You're comparing an open world game with tons of NPCs to a more linear adventure game.

 

Tons of identical looking NPC's you mean.


Doesn't make it a lot easier in terms of calculations.



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curl-6 on 14 October 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Vena said:

WiiU?

Now that third party support has left the building, 60fps may become standard on Wii U from here on out, but that's only one of three current gen systems.

Third party support never left the building. Nintendo never let them in by never listening to their demands for specs in 2011, thus  the outcome today. Third party was more than happy to port their last gen games but next gen was out of the question and there is no reason after trying to reason with Nintendo that they should.

Third party made lazy, incompetent attempts that failed to live up to the standards Nintendo gamers are used to, so they didn't sell, so they stopped.



Mr Puggsly on 14 October 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Apples and oranges.

You're comparing an open world game with tons of NPCs to a more linear adventure game.

 

Tons of identical looking NPC's you mean.

Tons of idential NPCs versus tons of nothing in a typical Uncharted enviornment.

Its like comparing Dead Rising to Last of Us. They are using resources to do something different.



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Mr Puggsly on 14 October 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Vena said:

WiiU?

Now that third party support has left the building, 60fps may become standard on Wii U from here on out, but that's only one of three current gen systems.

Third party support never left the building. Nintendo never let them in by never listening to their demands for specs in 2011, thus  the outcome today. Third party was more than happy to port their last gen games but next gen was out of the question and there is no reason after trying to reason with Nintendo that they should.

No, 3rd parties left because the Wii U sucks at moving their software.

Look at the original Wii. It was getting some decent core support until those sales dried up.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 14 October 2014
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Third party support never left the building. Nintendo never let them in by never listening to their demands for specs in 2011, thus  the outcome today. Third party was more than happy to port their last gen games but next gen was out of the question and there is no reason after trying to reason with Nintendo that they should.

Third party made lazy, incompetent attempts that failed to live up to the standards Nintendo gamers are used to, so they didn't sell, so they stopped.


Nintendo is lucky to have recieved what they did finally listening to devs at the tail end of a generation. Has everyone ever thought about that. NIntendo finally dropped the Wii and made themselves credible tech wise at the end of a generation with new console for a new generation. Thats ass backwards. Both screwed up.

Third party games don't sell on Nintendo because Nintendo conditioned gamers not to come to Nintendo. Sega scared off third party by being erratic in their day and showing improper internal politics and Nintendo refused to listen when it came to tech requirements from third party. Nintendo lost so many devs when the PS1 made its debut just because of CD's. The very format they hired Sony to create. Then they whined like babies that they were afraid of piracy when they knew what the in thing was. Gamecube didn't help either. They allowed Sony to dominate without a struggle because if they don't get what they want then they'll be babies about it. Talented....but still babies.



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curl-6 on 14 October 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo is lucky to have recieved what they did finally listening to devs at the tail end of a generation. Has everyone ever thought about that. NIntendo finally dropped the Wii and made themselves credible tech wise at the end of a generation with new console for a new generation. Thats ass backwards. Both screwed up.

Third party games don't sell on Nintendo because Nintendo conditioned gamers not to come to Nintendo. Sega scared off third party by being erratic in their day and showing improper internal politics and Nintendo refused to listen when it came to tech requirements from third party. Nintendo lost so many devs when the PS1 made its debut just because of CD's. The very format they hired Sony to create. Then they whined like babies that they were afraid of piracy when they knew what the in thing was. Gamecube didn't help either. They allowed Sony to dominate without a struggle because if they don't get what they want then they'll be babies about it. Talented....but still babies.

If you can't make a great game on Wii U specs, you're not a competent developer. But I guess that's what the industry's come to these days, masturbatory polygon pushing instead of actual quality games.



Mr Puggsly on 14 October 2014
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Third party support never left the building. Nintendo never let them in by never listening to their demands for specs in 2011, thus  the outcome today. Third party was more than happy to port their last gen games but next gen was out of the question and there is no reason after trying to reason with Nintendo that they should.

Third party made lazy, incompetent attempts that failed to live up to the standards Nintendo gamers are used to, so they didn't sell, so they stopped.

Nintendo gamers have very high standards. Which is why Just Dance and other party crap were huge among that audience.

Seriously though, people are buying Wii U primarily to play Nintendo games. The quality of 3rd party games isn't the issue, its the audience. Core gamers migrated away from Wii last gen for obvious reasons.



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curl-6 on 14 October 2014
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Third party support never left the building. Nintendo never let them in by never listening to their demands for specs in 2011, thus  the outcome today. Third party was more than happy to port their last gen games but next gen was out of the question and there is no reason after trying to reason with Nintendo that they should.

Third party made lazy, incompetent attempts that failed to live up to the standards Nintendo gamers are used to, so they didn't sell, so they stopped.

Nintendo gamers have very high standards. Which is why Just Dance and other party crap were huge among that audience.

Seriously though, people are buying Wii U primarily to play Nintendo games. The quality of 3rd party games isn't the issue, its the audience. Core gamers migrated away from Wii last gen for obvious reasons.

Core gamers migrated away with the Gamecube. 

And you really think it was the Nintendo faithful who made Just Dance a megahit?



michael_stutzer on 14 October 2014
walsufnir said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Apples and oranges.

You're comparing an open world game with tons of NPCs to a more linear adventure game.


Not to mention how much money and polishing Sony invests in exclusives (which is, of course, a good thing!). Not every company is able to do so.

Uncharted games cost around 20 million. Hundreds of people from multiple studios work on an AC game for multiple years. AC: U is apparently in development for the last four years. I bet its budget is much, much more. Not that I say AC is a bad looking game. I love AC4.



walsufnir on 14 October 2014
michael_stutzer said:
walsufnir said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Apples and oranges.

You're comparing an open world game with tons of NPCs to a more linear adventure game.


Not to mention how much money and polishing Sony invests in exclusives (which is, of course, a good thing!). Not every company is able to do so.

Uncharted games cost around 20 million. Hundreds of people from multiple studios work on an AC game for multiple years. AC: U is apparently in development for the last four years. I bet its budget is much, much more. Not that I say AC is a bad looking game. I love AC4.


But it is not as dedicated as a console exclusive, in no way. It is not only dev cost but also a dedication which people work for you and how much they can work on a game exclusively. UbiSoft is a 3rd party company whose devs jump between projects back and forth, from game to game. This doesn't apply to devs who can work exclusively on one console on 1 or 2 games in 3 years.