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DerNebel on 17 October 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Ninsect said:

Source?

Regarding the bump YOY, XB1 is considerably higher than 360 was last year and PS4 is A LOT higher than PS3 was so I don't see the problem.

We all knew (but Pacheter) PS4 would lead end get a bump from white consoles.

There are so much noise and cross checking with the same source now that NeoGaf leakers are almost as useless as VGChartz.

The stink of an "old style" pro true hardcore gamer is unbareable there (it´s worst than here). I know I might look like a delusional fanboy  against the undenaible fact that PS4 is the most perfect and successfull piece of hardware in the universe.

For me the most important fact this NPD shown was the decrise in software retail sales. The same people that champion the PS4 are the ones now buying Digital and always online games... 

There is nothing with power or exclusives (Destiny run and looks the same on both next gen consoles). Again, it´s a state of mind that is draging the marketing and only because Microsoft proposed a 24h check...

Lol, you do realise that a certain small game released last September that probably has a teeny tiny something to do with software numbers not living up to last years heights, right?



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mornelithe on 17 October 2014
DerNebel said:

Lol, you do realise that a certain small game released last September that probably has a teeny tiny something to do with software numbers not living up to last years heights, right?

Yeah, anyone who thought...any game, would match GTAV's sales are pushing an agenda.  But, It's DF, so...are we really surprised?



tbone51 on 17 October 2014
Kresnik said:

 

3DS is hard to tell.  This was Smash month right?  Any other month I'd have said 140k for the leader in a dying market would actually have been excellent, but to have a big game release... ehh.

WiiU same as usual.  90k is miles better than the position it was in, but I think things aren't going to change soon.

 

Now... where's DanganRonpa/Ar NoSurge/Natural Doctrine numbers?! :(


Lets talk, you mention nintendo (very short by the way) and dont mention the undertracking in the SW!!!!!! 

Also you have to take it into account the N3DS announcement will effect West 3ds numbers overall intill the N3DS comes out. 140k is rather great for that (like in japan 30-35k hold for 3ds weekly for over a month intill N3DS came out

WiiU, things are never going to change, i here this same statememt every month :'-(



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 17 October 2014
daredevil.shark said:

IMO Patcher intentionally makes wrong predictions. And thus Patcher always strikes back. This guy knows how to make himself relevant. People at forum makes fun of him. And he uses that "fame" to earn money.

 

PS4 HW sales up almost triple in September and more than double my estimate. Fortunately, my report contained over 40 estimates, many closer

Source:

 

 

I am paid well because I am pretty accurate predicting earnings. I make a lot of mistakes that cancel one another out

Source:

 

I get paid to forecast earnings, not unit sales. It is one metric I use to estimate revenue, and if sum of my errors approximates zero, fine

Source:

Pachter comes out on top again. He takes the hate and turns it into cash.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 17 October 2014
Arkaign said:
I don't get the animosity between gaf and vgc. We're not a monolithic group, nor are they. I would almost guarantee that a majority of us don't take vgc weekly numbers as gospel either, but they're still appreciated by many in an industry that plays it close to the vest. I have nothing against gaf at all, aren't we all fellow gamers who enjoy the news and excitement of it all? If you're a gaffer reading this, cheers and happy gaming :)



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Dark_Feanor on 17 October 2014
Madword said:

You do know that GTAV released last year at this same time, so of course there will be a drop in software sales... and to be fair software will take a hit while people buy less last gen and slowly convert over. 

So what if 20-30% are buying digital on PS4... thats not the point people had a problem with MS, the problem was that they *HAD TO* buy digital even with a disc. Perhaps you are just missing the massive elephant in the room in how MS were going to implement it, rather than just take cheap swipes at Sony.

I know you might be peev'd that your console of choice is not selling well, but thats just how it is, many others just feel the PS4 is better hardware, better build and will have better games. That's MS's fault in their messaging and hardware design, not the people who have gone out and purchased a PS4, which incidently includes many previous Xbo 360 owners.


I sincerly don´t give a damn which is selling better. I´m no share holder. I have a boring but well paid job and I like discussion. And I like to exercise my writing in english.

I have serious problems with how the XOne is right now. The 180 was a defeat for me. And I think the market will suffer in the near future.

Either way it´s not a perfect machine and never will be. I only bought because:

1- I can 2-

It´s half the PS4 price here

3 -None  of my friends has migrate to other platform

4- I love Halo and Gears.

As long as I can join into any Titanfall or Battlefield 4 matche at any time I´m available XOnedon´t need to sell one single more unit to affect my enjoyment.



Ninsect on 17 October 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Ninsect said:

Source?

Regarding the bump YOY, XB1 is considerably higher than 360 was last year and PS4 is A LOT higher than PS3 was so I don't see the problem.

We all knew (but Pacheter) PS4 would lead end get a bump from white consoles.

There are so much noise and cross checking with the same source now that NeoGaf leakers are almost as useless as VGChartz.

The stink of an "old style" pro true hardcore gamer is unbareable there (it´s worst than here). I know I might look like a delusional fanboy  against the undenaible fact that PS4 is the most perfect and successfull piece of hardware in the universe.

For me the most important fact this NPD shown was the decrise in software retail sales. The same people that champion the PS4 are the ones now buying Digital and always online games... 

There is nothing with power or exclusives (Destiny run and looks the same on both next gen consoles). Again, it´s a state of mind that is draging the marketing and only because Microsoft proposed a 24h check...

Are you making a point of some kind? Nothing you said had anything to do with what I said. Please provide a source for what you said earlier, where the gaf leakers were apparently proven wrong



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Nicklesbe on 17 October 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Madword said:

You do know that GTAV released last year at this same time, so of course there will be a drop in software sales... and to be fair software will take a hit while people buy less last gen and slowly convert over. 

So what if 20-30% are buying digital on PS4... thats not the point people had a problem with MS, the problem was that they *HAD TO* buy digital even with a disc. Perhaps you are just missing the massive elephant in the room in how MS were going to implement it, rather than just take cheap swipes at Sony.

I know you might be peev'd that your console of choice is not selling well, but thats just how it is, many others just feel the PS4 is better hardware, better build and will have better games. That's MS's fault in their messaging and hardware design, not the people who have gone out and purchased a PS4, which incidently includes many previous Xbo 360 owners.


I sincerly don´t give a damn which is selling better. I´m no share holder. I have a boring but well paid job and I like discussion. And I like to exercise my writing in english.

I have serious problems with how the XOne is right now. The 180 was a defeat for me. And I think the market will suffer in the near future.

Either way it´s not a perfect machine and never will be. I only bought because:

1- I can 2-

It´s half the PS4 price here

3 -None  of my friends has migrate to other platform

4- I love Halo and Gears.

As long as I can join into any Titanfall or Battlefield 4 matche at any time I´m available XOnedon´t need to sell one single more unit to affect my enjoyment.


Then why waste your time here every single time with the same nonsense and bad logic? If you were truly enjoying it you would be gaming right now, having fun, instead of spending so much time hating on the competition and throwing illogical fits when the console of your choice doesn't sell better than the competition. I can't help but wonder if you ever game all since you spend so much energy worshiping Xb1 and trying to piss in sony's cheerios.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 17 October 2014
daredevil.shark said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
So can someone summarise for me what's going on with GAF and this Aquamarine? I just saw a bunch of weird posts, all capitalised, and I'm not gonna read thousands of posts to find out what happened.


They started bashing VGC saying, VGC is rich and everyone believes VGC lies. They started picking FH2 and other numbers. Later they started picking me and dernebel and kept going.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134717194&postcount=3873

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134723293&postcount=4143





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vivster on 17 October 2014

So I'm seeing a 2:1 in US. That's harsh.



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