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Cool! 326 73.26%
 
Not cool... 119 26.74%
 
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QuintonMcLeod said:
Dallinor said:

First party sure, the link you provided shows that. However third parties pay massive amounts in royalties.

2008.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/activision-we-might-have-to-stop-supporting-sony

"According to the report, Activision paid USD 500 million in royalties to Sony last year."

That's some serious money from software.

But Sony still reported a loss of over 1 billion dollars that year:
http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/30/sony-ps-division-has-lost-4-7-billion-since-launching-ps3/

And this from all from the Playstation division no less.

Sure, selling overengineered hardware using the razor blade model will do that.

But we're talking about software, and third parties give truckloads of cash to console manufacturers in royalties. If the hardware isn't crippling the company, software from third parties alone can bring in some huge profits.



 

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QuintonMcLeod said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

And how do you propose Nintendo do that? Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been. I mean... They are a business, are they not?

So, what should Nintendo do?

Wait, what?


What are you asking me?

Your statement makes no sense. 

You Say:

Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been

But then support that with this claim:

They are a business, are they not?

Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are all buisnesses and that fact has nothing to do with buying multiplats.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

And how do you propose Nintendo do that? Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been. I mean... They are a business, are they not?

So, what should Nintendo do?

Wait, what?


What are you asking me?

Your statement makes no sense. 

You Say:

Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been

But then support that with this claim:

They are a business, are they not?

Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are all buisnesses and that fact has nothing to do with buying multiplats.


Well, a business exists to make money, does it not? If Nintendo is paying off exclusives, they aren't making money. Both Sony and Microsoft can attest to this.



QuintonMcLeod said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Your statement makes no sense. 

You Say:

Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been

But then support that with this claim:

They are a business, are they not?

Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are all buisnesses and that fact has nothing to do with buying multiplats.


Well, a business exists to make money, does it not? If Nintendo is paying off exclusives, they aren't making money. Both Sony and Microsoft can attest to this.


Why did you bring exclusives into the conversation? I thought you all were talking about multiplats.



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TheBlackNaruto said:


Why did you bring exclusives into the conversation? I thought you all were talking about multiplats.


Well, I was making a case that using multiplats as a form of celebrating a console having more total software sales than another is asinine when you're comparing it to a system that does not have those same multiplats.



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QuintonMcLeod said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
QuintonMcLeod said:

And how do you propose Nintendo do that? Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been. I mean... They are a business, are they not?

So, what should Nintendo do?

Wait, what?


What are you asking me?

Your statement makes no sense. 

You Say:

Nintendo isn't going to pay for these multiplats to exist on their system like Sony and Microsoft have been

But then support that with this claim:

They are a business, are they not?

Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are all buisnesses and that fact has nothing to do with buying multiplats.


Well, a business exists to make money, does it not? If Nintendo is paying off exclusives, they aren't making money. Both Sony and Microsoft can attest to this.

That is an extremely naive way of understanding how any buisness operates.

Every business in existence spends Money to make Money. Nintendo is no exception, paying for exclusive is no exception. To suggest that no money is made by spending money is extremely shortsighted.

There is a reason there is a difference between gross profit and actual profit.

Hell every console in existence was intially sold, manufactured, and distributed at a loss.

Furthermore, it has inexplicitly been proven that Sony and Microsoft profit off a third party regardless of how much they've spent on it.

If Sony spends 100$ to get 3rd parties and gets 1000$ in return, its better business than Nintendo who saved 100$ to loose 1000$. Do the math, thats +900 vs -900. 

Money not invested is Money wasted, that is bad for buisness. 



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

This tends to happen when you have hundreds of more games on said system than the other system.



Roar_Of_War said:

This tends to happen when you have hundreds of more games on said system than the other system.

VGC shows sales for 97 Wii U games versus 53 PS4 games.  Also with the recent adjustments it seems the PS4 passed the Wii U in software sales on the week Madden released.  It is now 23% ahead in lifetime software sales.



QuintonMcLeod said:
TheBlackNaruto said:


Why did you bring exclusives into the conversation? I thought you all were talking about multiplats.


Well, I was making a case that using multiplats as a form of celebrating a console having more total software sales than another is asinine when you're comparing it to a system that does not have those same multiplats.

But that still makes no sense because what 95%(not literally but you know what I mean) of the games on the Wii U are only on the Wii U so that just makes it seem like you are trying to give the edge to the Wii U. Also the Wii U currently has almost twice s many games as the PS4 if I am not msitaken so it easily has an advatage in games. Heck if the comparission was done the way you want it to be done it would be like 6 vs 60 or something like that(exclusives) where as incucing every game it is more like 51 or 52 vs 93 or 94(51-52 is PS4) so I guess while I seee your point it is just as asinine as the one you seem to be upset about.

Yet atleast with the current comparission it takes nothing out and is all inclusive so it makes more sense IMO>



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Roar_Of_War said:

This tends to happen when you have hundreds of more games on said system than the other system.


So you are saying the Wii U should no thave been passed since it has more games than the PS4? Or did you mean something else?



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