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pokoko on 27 September 2014

Ah, playeressence. That explains a lot.

That was a really, really poor spin, though he did try.

Now, let's look at the logic and see if it holds up:

Game A flopped.
Game B sold more than game A.
Therefore, game B did not flop.

Anyone see the problem with that? An extra 10 points on the exam for the first to answer correctly.



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hated_individual on 27 September 2014
Slade6alpha said:
DerNebel said:
What an utterly shitty article. What is that multitude of PS4 games that people actually expected to do well in Japan that the media ignored when it failed?

Also I highly doubt that W101 lifetime number is close to true in Japan, I think Kresnik explained it pretty well in the japanese sales thread, but ioi doesn't have any sources in Japan that we don't have access to as well, it's MC/Famitsu/Dengeki for him as well as us and everything that's not shown by those 3 trackers, is a complete guess. W101 is no way still selling 500 units per week in Japan.

Bayonetta 2 did poorly, stop trying to spin that.

The site owner bans people for posting negative Nintendo news on his site... Enough said

Agreed with your argument. 


Stop with confirmation bias, he bans for Sony and Microsoft too... Read the rules...



hated_individual on 27 September 2014
pokoko said:
Ah, playeressence. That explains a lot.

That was a really, really poor spin, though he did try.

Now, let's look at the logic and see if it holds up:

Game A flopped.
Game B sold more than game A.
Therefore, game B did not flop.

Anyone see the problem with that? An extra 10 points on the exam for the first to answer correctly.


A lot of PSV games and exclusives sold around that in launch weeks with larger install base... Its a flop because you want it to be.



Frogger on 27 September 2014
Zekkyou said:
That says more about how poorly W101 did than anything.


/thread

Seriously, that website deserves absolutely no recognition. They have no idea what they're talking about.



iceboy151 on 27 September 2014

That's not saying much.



 

                          

 

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DerNebel on 27 September 2014
hated_individual said:
pokoko said:
Ah, playeressence. That explains a lot.

That was a really, really poor spin, though he did try.

Now, let's look at the logic and see if it holds up:

Game A flopped.
Game B sold more than game A.
Therefore, game B did not flop.

Anyone see the problem with that? An extra 10 points on the exam for the first to answer correctly.


A lot of PSV games and exclusives sold around that in launch weeks with larger install base... Its a flop because you want it to be.

It's a flop. Period. Other games flopping as well doesn't change that. Look at what the first Bayonetta did in Japan and compare it to this.



pokoko on 27 September 2014
hated_individual said:
pokoko said:
Ah, playeressence. That explains a lot.

That was a really, really poor spin, though he did try.

Now, let's look at the logic and see if it holds up:

Game A flopped.
Game B sold more than game A.
Therefore, game B did not flop.

Anyone see the problem with that? An extra 10 points on the exam for the first to answer correctly.


A lot of PSV games and exclusives sold around that in launch weeks with larger install base... Its a flop because you want it to be.

Buzzt!  You missed the entire point of why his logic fails.  It actually has nothing to do with the games in question.



hated_individual on 27 September 2014
DerNebel said:
hated_individual said:
pokoko said:
Ah, playeressence. That explains a lot.

That was a really, really poor spin, though he did try.

Now, let's look at the logic and see if it holds up:

Game A flopped.
Game B sold more than game A.
Therefore, game B did not flop.

Anyone see the problem with that? An extra 10 points on the exam for the first to answer correctly.


A lot of PSV games and exclusives sold around that in launch weeks with larger install base... Its a flop because you want it to be.

It's a flop. Period. Other games flopping as well doesn't change that. Look at what the first Bayonetta did in Japan and compare it to this.


Your denial is annoying... Your logic is flawed...  Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 released in very different circumstances and conditions... Don't be ignorant.

 

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Teeqoz on 27 September 2014

Yeah, W101 did really, really bad.



uran10 on 27 September 2014

Hated_individual.. please stop wasting your time. I quite frankly can see a ton of differences in the market among other things but of course even if its 2 days of sales it will be called a flop.

A lot of websites stopped following media creates the week before Mk8 but came back for destiny ps4 bundle week. Seriously.. just ignore these guys you'll have a lot less stress.



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