Of course you say that. You defined "in the traditional sense" to old Atari 2600s without even recognizing that current consoles have evolved even past the old "traditional sense."

Patcher is just paroting Microsoft's desparation that they have lost the 8th generation and are eating sour grapes about it. So, manaagement, shareholders and and pudnits like Patcher are looking for other avenues to exploit. Obviously the causal market can be lucrative, but those same consumers can be fickle, as opposed to hardcore loyal gamers. 

Patcher is just doing a wishful thinking excerize in order to maximix his personal investments into Microsoft. lol Ok, just kidding.

Someone above said that once Gigabit comes to the masses consoles will be irrelivant. But that's implying that the device doesn't mattter since games could be put on any device. Ok, that's true. But the device is the window into that world and personal preference on GUI design and features provided by vendors (Sony, Apple, Google, Nintendo, etc..) will have their own method of accessing that content. Money paid in contract for game development will also continue in the future just like it has always been. Licensinig is just a way of broadening the ways we access that content. But that doesn't prevent people from choosing one brands design over another. That will still be valuable. This is why even consoles will still be vauable even in a gigabit world. It's a personalized appliance that is plug and play. That's not the same as stripped down versioned of Windows 8 or 9, espeically if one hates those interfaces. This is why not everyone likes the SamSung Android TouchWiz UI and prefer other Android UIs or iOS.  

So, what Patcher is essentially trying to say is that Microsoft has lost the 8th generation, they are moving their focus to the future of casual market and mobile devices (Microsoft's tablets and smartphones running some form of Windows, that no one cares about) and everyone else will start using their products. :|

Exaclty. And I heard the same thing about "phsical media is dead! Digital downloads is the only way!" This was in 2006 when Blu-rays came out. I told them that a digital download only world is decades away. Streaming is more poppular that DDL. And phsical media is still alive and kicking eight years later. The problem with DDL is that the file sizes are large and getting larger dispite compression. And until we get gigabit and super large soild state downloading 1080p or 4-8-12K HD movies with multichannel audio isn't an easy task in regards to bandwidth and disk usage loads.

Ten years later from 2004, back when I heard about Internet 2, we're still waiting for gigabit for the masses to the home. Google fiber, where are you? Comcast cock blocking you? :)

low-end?

I think there will be a Playstation 5. But there won't be a Playstation 6. Streaming (ala PSNow) and tablet style devices by then will be able to generate extremely high end graphics and stream them wirelessly to a TV or VR headset, making the need for a giant sized box under your TV moot.

Disc based games are done after this gen too. 

They already started going another direction, VR. As VR starts adding more and more emulated senses it will require more bandwith

It is true that mobile devices will never reach the power of classic consoles. But they don't even need to. Power is not anymore a limitating factor on games, you can do just about any genre on mobile devices already. Most gamers don't care about dem 4K grfxx and stuff, they just want fun games.

I'm not saying consoles will die anytime soon, but the market will shrink considerably. Which doesn't need to be a bad thing. With smaller games by smaller developers, we can expect a whole lot more creativity in the future.

Yes, Windows devices are more powerfull then iOS devices. Compare different computing devices, not just a category like smartphones.

In ten years I think gigabit internet will be fairly common in a lot of big US cities. Google is finally pushing Time Warner/Comcast to have to get off their ass and make progress in this regard.

When that happens, honestly you'll be able to stream just about anything, even at 2K/4K.

I suspect in 10-15 years you'll get your home cable, gaming, movies all through entertainment networks. You won't need a game console anymore, just a controller. 

That's not the part you got wrong. Apple is strong on the high-end mobile. The 5s or 5c was nowhere near as succseful as the 6 line. Not even close.

All you did was try and define mobile as "low end." It's not. They have their own catagories.

say this and im not even a big fan of the xbox.

but if the xbox were to die off, gaming as a whole would be a lot less interesting, and chances are the customer would get bent over a barrel and reamed hard because they would have less options, and thus, less reason for the remaining manufacturers to be competitive.

this would be true for any of the three suddenly leaving the market, people should consider the effects to gaming as a whole before wishing ill of a particular console brand purely out of childish fanboy hatred.