CGI-Quality said:
Which completely contradicts your sentiments for the thread. I believe we're done here. |
Read the title of this thread again.
here is a hint, "dominate".
CGI-Quality said:
Which completely contradicts your sentiments for the thread. I believe we're done here. |
Read the title of this thread again.
here is a hint, "dominate".
Jega said:
UK will help Xbox One get closer in sales to the PS4. While USA and Canada Xbox One outells the PS4. This is what happened with the Xbox 360 and I predict the same thing will happen to Xbox One despite all the negativity. People forget the Xbox 360 also had negativity. People quickly forget people were calling the generation to the PS3 before the Xbox 360 even launched. Looks like the same thing to me this generation. |
Yeah people thought the PS3 would win that's based on the best information they had on past trends at the time, which is how most people make predictions of the future, but once the first sales strted it was obvious that the situation of the PS2 would not be the same with the PS3. What you're doing right now is being a PS3 fan of those times saying "anytime now the PS3 will start dominating just like the PS2, remember how well that did in Japan and the US? Well anytime now the 360 will be out of its hardcore purchases and then things will continue as they did last gen."
When you're starting a new generation it makes sense to base your predictions off the last generation because that's the most current trends you have, but once the generation starts you do not continuously go back to those past generation trends as though they'll start any day now. There is no reason based on information from the current generation's sales to think that anything you've said will come true. Yes, it could, but that's the weakest argument you could possibly have. A meteorite could fall on Sony HQ tonight and WiiU takes the place of PS4 as the defacto console for the generation, but it almost certainly won't, and making predictions based off things that you want to happen with your only defense being that they technically "could" is the worst way to do it.
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Torillian said:
Yeah people thought the PS3 would win that's based on the best information they had on past trends at the time, which is how most people make predictions of the future, but once the first sales strted it was obvious that the situation of the PS2 would not be the same with the PS3. What you're doing right now is being a PS3 fan of those times saying "anytime now the PS3 will start dominating just like the PS2, remember how well that did in Japan and the US? Well anytime now the 360 will be out of its hardcore purchases and then things will continue as they did last gen." When you're starting a new generation it makes sense to base your predictions off the last generation because that's the most current trends you have, but once the generation starts you do not continuously go back to those past generation trends as though they'll start any day now. There is no reason based on information from the current generation's sales to think that anything you've said will come true. Yes, it could, but that's the weakest argument you could possibly have. A meteorite could fall on Sony HQ tonight and WiiU takes the place of PS4 as the defacto console for the generation, but it almost certainly won't, and making predictions based off things that you want to happen with your only defense being that they technically "could" is the worst way to do it. |
If anything the last 4 generations taught me and should teach all of us is that nothing is guaranteed no matter what things look like.
Sony came out of nowhere and beat the Sega and Nintendo with Playstation.
Microsoft came out of nowhere and marginally beat Nintendo with the Gamecube. The Xbox would have sold more if Microsoft
didn't stop making them.
The Wii sold the most consoles last generation, and Xbox 360 pretty much tied with the PS3.
What will happen this genertion no one truly knows, the only thing we all know for sure is the the PS4 is in the lead right now.
The Plot Thickens, LOL!
Jega said:
It is not about what I want it is about what I think will happen. And I fail to see where the Xbox 360 lost by a lot because last time I check the ps3 has maybe a 2 million lead on the Xbox 360 worldwide. |
Yes, the PS3 has a 2 million lead worldwide.
The Xbox 360 had a U.S. lead of 17 million, a U.K. lead of 3 million, which brings us to a total lead in just those two markets of 20 million, meaning that in other markets, the PS3 had to outsell it by 22 million just to reach that 2 million global lead.
That lead came from Asia, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by nearly 10:1, and mainland Europe, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by over ten million units, despite the Xbox 360 having a price advantage, a launch time advantage, a PR advantage, basically everything going for them. When you can't keep your competitor from beating you soundly despite massive advantages, that's a pretty steady whuppin. Numbers from regions such as Germany suggest that, this generation, the PS4 is winning by an even more lopsided ratio than the PS3 did, even in markets the Xbox One was in at launch, because the Xbox One has none of the same advantages the Xbox 360 did.
Now, what do you think is going to happen if, like I said before, the individual market patterns happen just like last gen? I.e. the early generation 'winner' in the U.S. (the Xbox 360 then, PS4 now,) remains the winner?
And sorry, but your thread IS based on what you hope will happen. =P You have no data, no educated guesses, only this instinctive 'The Xbox will catch up because it's XBOX.' You say 'because the PS3 caught up last generation,' but when I point out that, last generation, the early generation marketshare leader (the Xbox 360) kept its U.S. lead the entire generation, then what, NOW this generation is going to be different and the early generation marketshare leader (the PS4) WON'T keep its U.S. lead the entire generation?
You just said you saw this generation being 'just like the last one.' So either that means you see the PS4 keeping its U.S. lead, just like the Xbox 360 did last generation, or you're literally basing your entire theory on 'It's An Xbox Console, It HAS To Catch Up, Because It's An Xbox Console!' Which, sorry man, is hope, nothing more. =/
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Zanten said:
The Xbox 360 had a U.S. lead of 17 million, a U.K. lead of 3 million, which brings us to a total lead in just those two markets of 20 million, meaning that in other markets, the PS3 had to outsell it by 22 million just to reach that 2 million global lead. That lead came from Asia, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by nearly 10:1, and mainland Europe, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by over ten million units, despite the Xbox 360 having a price advantage, a launch time advantage, a PR advantage, basically everything going for them. When you can't keep your competitor from beating you soundly despite massive advantages, that's a pretty steady whuppin. Numbers from regions such as Germany suggest that, this generation, the PS4 is winning by an even more lopsided ratio than the PS3 did, even in markets the Xbox One was in at launch, because the Xbox One has none of the same advantages the Xbox 360 did. Now, what do you think is going to happen if, like I said before, the individual market patterns happen just like last gen? I.e. the early generation 'winner' in the U.S. (the Xbox 360 then, PS4 now,) remains the winner?
And sorry, but your thread IS based on what you hope will happen. =P You have no data, no educated guesses, only this instinctive 'The Xbox will catch up because it's XBOX.' You say 'because the PS3 caught up last generation,' but when I point out that, last generation, the early generation marketshare leader (the Xbox 360) kept its U.S. lead the entire generation, then what, NOW this generation is going to be different and the early generation marketshare leader (the PS4) WON'T keep its U.S. lead the entire generation? You just said you saw this generation being 'just like the last one.' So either that means you see the PS4 keeping its U.S. lead, just like the Xbox 360 did last generation, or you're literally basing your entire theory on 'It's An Xbox Console, It HAS To Catch Up, Because It's An Xbox Console!' Which, sorry man, is hope, nothing more. =/ |
I am going off Xbox 360 sales. I think in the UK and North America Xbox One can eventually start to sell like the Xbox 360.
If not better.
Jega said:
It is just one week and I didn't want to bring it up. But you do know the Xbox One Just outsold the PS4 in america by a small margin. The way I see it this is just the beginning. In my opinion this gen will be jus like last gen except for Nintendo. |
The Xbox one outsold ps4 in the week of August 30th in the US ACCORDING to Vgchartz which we all will 100% change once official data gets released like it has always been. Next time adjustments are made the Ps4 will be the top seeling current gen console for every week in the US.
Kowan said:
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Well maybe so, but right now it posted that Xbox One outsold the PS4 in America for the last week of August:)
Jega said:
I am going off Xbox 360 sales. I think in the UK and North America Xbox One can eventually start to sell like the Xbox 360. If not better. |
Yes, but again, that means you're looking at is as 'It'll Sell This Because It's An XBOX!"
The PS2 sold 50 million (50,000,000) units in North America, more even than the Xbox 360. By your standards, therefore, the PS3 would have had to 'eventually' start to sell like the PS2, and outsell the Xbox 360 in the U.S.. Did it? No. Not even close. Heck, even the Xbox 360, though it got within less than ten million of that number, couldn't hit the 50 million.
So just because a console last generation sold x number of figures, is not an indication that its successor is going to automatically replicate that. If it was, then the domination of the PSOne, and PS2 would have guaranteed crushing victory for the PS3. We already know how that turned out. Why are you now saying it's different when an Xbox console is the subject?
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Jega said:
UK will help Xbox One get closer in sales to the PS4. While USA and Canada Xbox One outells the PS4. This is what happened with the Xbox 360 and I predict the same thing will happen to Xbox One despite all the negativity. People forget the Xbox 360 also had negativity. People quickly forget people were calling the generation to the PS3 before the Xbox 360 even launched. Looks like the same thing to me this generation. |
PS4 is out selling x1 in all thsoe 3 markets, reality says hi.
PS4 is outselling X1 in UK, how does that help X1 negate the 6-1 sales advantages in other nations ?
360 has some negativity, PS3 had way more and X1 has way more then thsoe two put together. You have no point do you, you just post the first foolisgness that comes to mind ? You still have yet to make a single intelligent arguement. You just post foolishly and expect what exactly ? no here will agree with you as even the bigegst xbox supporters can see the ignorance in everything you post.
I hope you are getting payed to post pro xbox commnets online, other wise i pity you.
Jega said: If anything the last 4 generations taught me and should teach all of us is that nothing is guaranteed no matter what things look like. Sony came out of nowhere and beat the Sega and Nintendo with Playstation. Microsoft came out of nowhere and marginally beat Nintendo with the Gamecube. The Xbox would have sold more if Microsoft didn't stop making them. The Wii sold the most consoles last generation, and Xbox 360 pretty much tied with the PS3. What will happen this genertion no one truly knows, the only thing we all know for sure is the the PS4 is in the lead right now.
The Plot Thickens, LOL! |
Ok so PS4 is kicking the crap out of the competition and you agree, so any thread you make should be locked becasue all we know is PS4 is in the lead rigtht now and trying to have a discussion with kids who argue with the notions of fairy tales and dreams is pointlless when we all agree PS4 is i the lead.
lol