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Jega said:
Zanten said:
Jega said:
Zanten said:
 

 

You don't want it to be the same thing this generation, though.

The Xbox 360 had a lead in the U.S., U.K., etc, but got its butt pretty quickly kicked by PS3 in Asia and Europe when it finally launched. Fast forward to today, the Xbox 360 still has a lead in the U.S, U.K., etc, and got its butt kicked by PS3 in Asia and Europe. Nothing really CHANGED during the generation, it's just that one group of buttkicking markets outweighed the other group, thus leading to a shift in global momentum. o.O The PS3 was never able to 'take back' the U.S., the Xbox 360 was never able to 'Take Back' Europe after the PS3's later launch yanked the sales crown away.

The PS4 has a lead in the U.S, and is kicking butt in Asia and Europe. If things go 'just like last generation' then when we fast forward to the end of the generation, the PS4 would still have a lead in the U.S., and still be kicking butt in Asia and Europe. It would be just like last generation, with the early-gen 'winners' still 'winning' in late-gen.

So, man, you don't WANT things to go like last generation, last generation means the Xbox One loses by a lot. =P What you want is for things to go, pretty much, the opposite to last gen, where the individual market 'loser' becomes a 'winner' in five years.



It is not about what I want it is about what I think will happen.

And I fail to see where the Xbox 360 lost by a lot because last time I check the ps3 has maybe a 2 million lead on the Xbox 360 worldwide.


Yes, the PS3 has a 2 million lead worldwide.

The Xbox 360 had a U.S. lead of 17 million, a U.K. lead of 3 million, which brings us to a total lead in just those two markets of 20 million, meaning that in other markets, the PS3 had to outsell it by 22 million just to reach that 2 million global lead.

That lead came from Asia, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by nearly 10:1, and mainland Europe, where it outsold the Xbox 360 by over ten million units, despite the Xbox 360 having a price advantage, a launch time advantage, a PR advantage, basically everything going for them. When you can't keep your competitor from beating you soundly despite massive advantages, that's a pretty steady whuppin. Numbers from regions such as Germany suggest that, this generation, the PS4 is winning by an even more lopsided ratio than the PS3 did, even in markets the Xbox One was in at launch, because the Xbox One has none of the same advantages the Xbox 360 did.

Now, what do you think is going to happen if, like I said before, the individual market patterns happen just like last gen? I.e. the early generation 'winner' in the U.S. (the Xbox 360 then, PS4 now,) remains the winner?

 

And sorry, but your thread IS based on what you hope will happen. =P You have no data, no educated guesses, only this instinctive 'The Xbox will catch up because it's XBOX.' You say 'because the PS3 caught up last generation,' but when I point out that, last generation, the early generation marketshare leader (the Xbox 360) kept its U.S. lead the entire generation, then what, NOW this generation is going to be different and the early generation marketshare leader (the PS4) WON'T keep its U.S. lead the entire generation?

You just said you saw this generation being 'just like the last one.' So either that means you see the PS4 keeping its U.S. lead, just like the Xbox 360 did last generation, or you're literally basing your entire theory on 'It's An Xbox Console, It HAS To Catch Up, Because It's An Xbox Console!' Which, sorry man, is hope, nothing more. =/

I am going off Xbox 360 sales. I think in the UK and North America Xbox One can eventually start to sell like the Xbox 360.

If not better.

 

Yes, but again, that means you're looking at is as 'It'll Sell This Because It's An XBOX!"

The PS2 sold 50 million (50,000,000) units in North America, more even than the Xbox 360. By your standards, therefore, the PS3 would have had to 'eventually' start to sell like the PS2, and outsell the Xbox 360 in the U.S.. Did it? No. Not even close. Heck, even the Xbox 360, though it got within less than ten million of that number, couldn't hit the 50 million.

So just because a console last generation sold x number of figures, is not an indication that its successor is going to automatically replicate that. If it was, then the domination of the PSOne, and PS2 would have guaranteed crushing victory for the PS3. We already know how that turned out. Why are you now saying it's different when an Xbox console is the subject?



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